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WTAF?!? The school resource officer and the local PD thought it was prudent to proceed with arresting and charging a 13yo for pointing a finger? I'd expect this stupidity in coastal Blue states filled with know-it-all, overbearing adults but, this is 'fly-over country', is this where liberal teachers & principals are trying to prove how woke they are to the coastal elites by over-reacting? D Did the girl mouth-off so badly when she was called into the principal's office that having her arrested was the best course of action? No parent-teacher conference? No counseling? Pointing a finger gun lands 12-year-old Johnson County student in handcuffs This message has been edited. Last edited by: corsair, | ||
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10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Nobody needs that many fingers. Ban assault fingers. For the children. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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Coin Sniper |
The public education system in this country needs a clean slate protocol. Tear it down and rebuild it using the last successful model. I believe circa 1950's Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Wait, what? |
Insanity. Leftists poison everything they touch; heaven forbid kids act like kids. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Charged with a felony? These people need a hard kick in the ass. I hope there is a lawsuit to follow against these idiots. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Too soon old, too late smart |
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Uhhh... The felony is way over the top! Especially given that kids who did bring real guns to school were charged with misdemeanors. And all this zero tolerance crap actually translates into zero common sense. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
Gotta get those Prison Creds early~! | |||
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Dances With Tornados |
What about this student? | |||
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Sad sad Sad I tried numerous times to be a Police Officer and Deputy in that area. If this is the how they investigate situations and the actions they take I would not have lasted. The more I read the newspapers, I realize I may have a tough time returning to law enforcement and being required to enforce this ridiculous stuff. I probably should go back to digging ditches | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
I went to public schools 1st-12th grade and don’t recollect a single instance of being asked which five people I would kill. Admittedly, I got out of high school in 1975. Maybe that game hadn’t been discovered yet. | |||
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Assault Accountant |
Same here. It wasn’t something I’d ever thought about much less ask for another’s opinion about. __________________ Member NRA Member NYSRPA | |||
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I guess that I am just too old, and common sense no longer exists.....this is the dumist shit I have heard in a while.....of course ,there is always tomorrow.This message has been edited. Last edited by: GT-40DOC, | |||
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A felony?? It's time to search the home to ensure she does not have access to firearms! No, I meant real ones. | |||
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A good editorial from the KC Star. FWIW, Overland Park PD Chief Frank Donchez used to be Chief in nearby Davenport IA. https://www.kansascity.com/opi...rticle236268543.html Funny, but JoCo 13-year-old arrested for finger gun just looked like shy kid in court BY MELINDA HENNEBERGER OCTOBER 16, 2019 05:00 AM, UPDATED 6 HOURS 55 MINUTES AGO The slight 13-year-old who was charged with a felony for pointing her finger at four classmates and pretending to shoot them and then herself appeared in court on Tuesday in Overland Park. Maybe that was a real killer in the glasses and pink sweater, holding tight onto her grandpa, who in turn kept squeezing her shoulder to offer reassurance. (“Always say, ‘Yes, your honor,’ ’’ he whispered at one point.) But she sure did a great impersonation of a shy little kid, shaking slightly as she stood before the bench. When the judge mentioned that the girl’s mom, who recently moved to Norway, could join the next hearing by phone if that made sense given the time difference, the girl raised her hand, as if in class, and waited for the judge to call on her before offering in a small voice that Oslo is nine hours ahead of where she’s been living these last weeks, with her grandfather in California. If she’s not the perennially picked-on lover of kittens and gun control that her family has described, this spontaneous display of diffidence was a diabolically canny touch. But that scenario is about as convincing as Overland Park Police Chief Frank Donchez’ insistence that eighth graders at Westridge Middle School in the Shawnee Mission district are “generally in fear of this individual.” According to her mother, she’s been bullied for some time — punched in the face on the school bus, and left sobbing in the lunchroom. On Sept. 18, after a boy asked tauntingly which five people in the class she’d shoot if she could, she answered by pointing her finger at him, several others, and finally herself: Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. The next day, somebody reported on the bullying tip line that she’d absolutely terrified her schoolmates with this gesture. Were these whistleblowers the same bullies who’d provoked her in the first place? Either way, she should never have been put in handcuffs. You’d think that turning a pretend gun on herself would have prompted a call to counselors rather than cops. The girl’s mother, Vanessa McCaron, says the school’s resource officer told her that “I will press charges against anyone who I think has broken the law.” According to court documents, the girl “unlawfully and feloniously communicated a threat to commit violence, with the intent to place another in fear, or with the intent to cause the evacuation, lock down or disruption in regular, ongoing activities.” Chilling. Donchez maintains that it’s those of us who see the police action as excessive who have acted too hastily when we should have just trusted that they know best. Only, charging her with a felony never made any sense. If police and prosecutors really find her as menacing as they’ve suggested she is in defending the kind of get-a-load-of-this overreaction that keeps Fox News in business, then why did they offer her a chance to apply for diversion at Tuesday’s hearing? Thank goodness they did, instead of putting her in detention for a year to prove a point. But one danger of having cops in schools is that they can tend to see all kinds of kid problems through a criminalizing, law enforcement lens. And if school resource officers arrested every student who did something another middle schooler saw as threatening, criminal justice reform would have no chance at all. | |||
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thin skin can't win |
Congrats - good illustration right outta the gate Mr. Wizard. intraforum link You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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Conservative Behind Enemy Lines |
Actually, the USA's school system was at its zenith during the first decade of the 20th century. To get into high school in 1909, the student had to pass a test that nearly no college graduate could pass today. | |||
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Only dead fish go with the flow |
I think it's been apparent for some time that we can't rely on the good faith or common sense of anyone in the educational system or federal and state employees that have any type of authority that can impact our lives. I hope this girls parents have some real fight and backbone in them because they need to file a lawsuit against anyone who had a hand in this and get it to a jury. Let a jury get all the facts and determine whether this was reasonable. If it's as outrageous as it appears to be, there needs to be a significant consequence. | |||
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My nephew has autism and Asperger syndrome, he was 13 and kids were bullying him and he said leave me alone and did the gun finger point. He now has a police record, had to change schools and yet the antagonists walked away with no reprimands..He's a good kid. This was BS. | |||
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