German Spy Agency Officially Classifies AfD Party as ‘Extremist’
The federal intelligence agency said that the populist political party aims to exclude certain population groups from ‘equal participation in society.’

German Spy Agency Officially Classifies AfD Party as ‘Extremist’
AfD party congress dated January 11, 2025 in Riesa, Germany. Sean Gallup/Getty Images

By Owen Evans
5/2/2025


Germany’s domestic intelligence agency has officially classified the right-wing party Alternative for Germany (AfD) as extremist.

Having regarded the AfD as a suspected extremist movement since 2021, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), on May 2 designated the populist party as “right-wing extremist,” following an “intensive and comprehensive expert examination.”
This means that intelligence services now have the right to keep it under surveillance.

BfV said in a statement that AfD’s approach to ethnicity is “not compatible with the free democratic basic order.”

According to BfV’s statement, AfD does not consider German nationals with a migration background from Muslim-origin countries as equal members of the German people.

BfV Vice President Sinan Selen and Vice President Dr. Silke Willems in a joint statement said: “We have come to the conviction that the Alternative for Germany is a definitively right-wing extremist movement.”

Certain factions of the AfD such as its youth wing had already been classified as extremist.
In the party’s first response to the report, the leader of a regional parliamentary group, Anton Baron, said: “It is sad to see the state of democracy in our country when the established parties now resort to the most politically questionable means to act against the strongest opposition party.”

“This is solely about maintaining the power of the old parties,” he said separately in a post on X. “The fight against the AfD has become a fight against democracy itself. We won’t be intimidated!”
AfD Deputy Federal Spokesman Stephan Brandner told The Epoch Times that the classification was “absurd.”
Brandner said that this has “nothing to do with law and order, and is a purely political in the fight of the cartel parties against the AfD.”

The other parties have failed across the board in recent years and driven Germany into the abyss, Brandner said.

“The people know this and therefore vote for us,” he said

AfD’s co-leaders Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla said the decision was a “serious blow to German democracy” in a joint statement on social media platform X.
“In current polls, the AfD is the strongest party,” they said, adding that the “opposition party is now being publicly discredited and criminalized shortly before the change of government.”

“The associated, targeted interference in the democratic decision-making process is therefore clearly politically motivated.”

A survey by Ipsos in March showed that the AfD party topped the polls for the first time.
The Epoch Times has contacted AfD for comment.

The decision comes shortly before conservative leader Friedrich Merz is due to be elected as Germany’s new chancellor.

Merz’s center-right CDU emerged as the winner of the February elections and is now in a coalition with the center-left Social Democrats (SPD), which is calling for a party ban.

Merz has vowed never to govern with the AfD, which came in second in the general election, even though doing so would ensure a clear majority.
The deputy leader of the Social Democrat SPD, Serpil Midyatl wrote on the social media platform X: “For me, it’s clear: the AfD ban must come into effect.”
In a statement she said her party has “absolutely rightly led the discussion about a party ban in recent months” and that it will be the subject of a forthcoming country party congress.
“The whole thing must now continue in the necessary care, resilient and continuous without errors. It is clear to me that the ban must come,” she added.

Outgoing Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on Friday that proceedings to ban the party must not be rushed.

“I am against a quick shot, we have to evaluate the classification carefully,” he said at a church convention in the northern city of Hanover.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...L0d7vHlzn8fZZAtSY%3D

It would seem that Germany has forgotten the past and is doomed to repeat it. Banning a political party is sooo nazi; I wonder what they’ll call themselves now since that term has historically fallen out of favor?

The AFD had recently become the front runner in the latest political polls in Germany.

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The AFD had recently become the front runner in the latest political polls in Germany.

Yes and that is the reason they are going after them. Just talked to a lot of my family and old co-workers in Germany this week and you would be amazed how many of them have real pro Trump opinions.

Really think this is going to backfire and make them more popular because the public especially the east don't like oppressive governments.

Funny how the left wingers get so authoritarian when their power is threatened.
While I understand the fear of the extreme right in a place like that, the extreme left doesn't have the best track record either.
They seem to have many of the same concerns that we have had recently, uncontrolled immigration, and out of touch liberal policies.

This kind of shit is all the justification we should need for moving all our bases in Germany to Poland and CZ.

And people say the U.S. needs more than two parties.

The muti-party "coalitions" in euro parliamentary governments are a complete shit show. A rigged game to ensure leftists or fake "conservatives" are always in power.

Europe never stopped being an aristocracy, and the old land owner money still runs the show. They just stay hidden and let the leftists pretend to do something for "the people". Socialism is a luxury belief system pushed by the rich to keep the commoners from becoming rich themselves and challenging the establishment.

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^^^^ There are already more than two parties in the US. It’s just that the two major ones have money, power and control. The game is also “rigged”, and the smaller ones have no chance. The people’s brains have been conditioned to stay in one of the two plantations (GOP and Dem). If you go outside to join the smaller camps, you are giving power to the other side.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns....-supporters-germany/

"In 2021, Germany’s domestic intelligence agency, the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (BfV), designated the entire AfD as a “suspected threat to democracy.” That move allowed the government to surveil, wiretap, and investigate the party and its members.

It didn’t stop there.

Courts have now upheld revoking gun licenses from AfD members, based solely on their political affiliation. In one case, a couple in North Rhine-Westphalia lost legal ownership of over 200 firearms. They weren’t criminals. They weren’t accused of wrongdoing. They were just AfD members.

Another court in Thuringia blocked a blanket gun ban for all AfD members—but left the door wide open for revocations on a case-by-case basis.

In Saxony-Anhalt, officials are reviewing the gun licenses of 109 AfD members. As of last fall, 72 had already been targeted for revocation, with the rest under active review. The justification? Supporting a party the state now claims is “working against the constitutional order.”

And the courts are backing it up. According to a March 2024 ruling, former or current AfD supporters “lack the reliability” required to legally own firearms."

German's political & social laws are getting close to boxing itself into a corner. While culturally German's like to pride themselves on being painfully objective, the reality is that incremental moves to the overall social fabric has resulted in a Germany that doesn't resemble the landscape of former chancellor Khol or Adenauer. In many ways, the CDU screwed itself when Merkel became chancellor and reopened many economic channels with Russia while allowing unfettered immigration, resulting in many cultural points-of-friction to develop to include rising terror attacks by newly arrived and the culturally disillusioned. With this ruling, it appears that any political leanings that doesn't at least conform to the political status quo, is viewed as a 'threat to democracy', that's some familiar language and illustrates the silo that many legislators exist in.

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Courts have now upheld revoking gun licenses from AfD members, based solely on their political affiliation. In one case, a couple in North Rhine-Westphalia lost legal ownership of over 200 firearms. They weren’t criminals. They weren’t accused of wrongdoing. They were just AfD members.

I just read about this issue this morning, and I'm horrified.

Yes, Merkel was a total disaster for Germany and the EU.

I don't think Germany at its current rate is going to be the dominant power in the EU again, economically, culturally, or militarily.

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This kind of shit is all the justification we should need for moving all our bases in Germany to Poland and CZ.

Germany shouldn't be a country, everyone blames them for WWII, but they always get off the hook for WWI. It should be West Poland and East France. There's already a "German homeland" It's called Austria.

Fresh after a first round of elections, Germany's ruling parties seek to ban their rising AfD conservative rivals

By Monica Showalter

What kind of a government tries to shut down its political opponents?

A night-haunted dictatorship, which is what Germany is descending into, the outcome of its COVID lockdowns, its migrant surge, its self-induced energy dependence, its enfeebled green economy, and its social wokery.

According to a German expat paper, the Munich Eye:

The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution has classified the entire Alternative for Germany (AfD) party as confirmed right-wing extremist. This decision has prompted reactions from various political factions, with opposition parties such as the SPD, Greens, and Left Party welcoming the classification. In response, AfD leaders Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla announced plans to take legal action against what they describe as damaging and politically motivated claims that threaten democracy.

Weidel and Chrupalla argue that the classification is an unjust attack on their party, asserting that it seeks to discredit them ahead of a potential governmental transition. They emphasize that the ruling represents a targeted effort to intervene in the democratic process and is fundamentally political in nature.

The classification was made public in Cologne, where the Office for the Protection of the Constitution cited the party's extreme positions as undermining human dignity and fostering an overall hostile attitude towards migrants and Muslims. This assessment reflects an ongoing concern regarding the party's ideological direction and its implications for German democracy.

In light of the new classification, Schleswig-Holstein's Minister President Daniel Günther (CDU) has voiced support for initiating a ban on the AfD, stating that their anti-constitutional stance has long been evident, especially as they are already recognized as right-wing extremist in three German states. He called for swift action by the federal government to protect democracy.

Former East Commissioner Marco Wanderwitz (CDU) echoed this sentiment, urging for a ban process to be initiated urgently. He stressed that the recent classification should serve as a clear indication of the AfD's threat to democratic values.

German after good German came out in favor of repressing the country's second-largest political party, whose map distribution can be seen here -- almost all of economically dreary East Germany went for AfD except for Leipzig and a part of Berlin that went for a party identified as "Left." Two pockets of western Germany -- Duisberg and Kaiserslautern, described in several reports as economically depressed rust-belt regions, also went for AfD.

What it looks like is an overbearing majority party -- the Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats, operating in tandem, are working to stomp out any embers of resistance to their longtime decadent rule, with significant failures to its record -- lost energy independence, the release of hordes of unvetted migrants from stone-age societies such as Afghanistan into their country, a failure to enforce crime laws, greenie regulations creating a lousy economy, capital flight and even the loss of old growth forests for wind farms, grotesque social trends favoring sexual perversions, and the COVID lockdown record which did so much damage to the quality of life.

Wokesterism has absolutely permeatede the society under their rule, extending to well beyond the state -- note that the German Catholic Church is financed through taxes on Catholics, making it a state organ, and now its outcome is the same as Lenin smashing churches and Hitler smashing synagogues, except that now, the nullification is from within:

“German” and “Catholic” no longer belong in the same sentence for this German sect. This must be opposed and denounced y the Cardinals gathered in Rome and every bishop around the world. https://t.co/IGphChUZ0j
— Bishop J. Strickland (@BishStrickland) May 2, 2025

AfD is a relatively new party, has been making steady gains in election after election, particularly among the youth, and now stands on the cusp of being entitled to some kind of coalition-level power as the next vote in the runoff beckons.

As the Munich Eye piece noted above:

Weidel and Chrupalla argue that the classification is an unjust attack on their party, asserting that it seeks to discredit them ahead of a potential governmental transition. They emphasize that the ruling represents a targeted effort to intervene in the democratic process and is fundamentally political in nature.

So it's obvious the German rulers want to join the tyranny trend in Western Europe, with France banning its leading candidate for office from running for president, and the U.K. jailing internet critics. They seem to want to outdo them all, because neither France nor the U.K. have sought to ban entire political parties, though they may be just upstream of it, heading for the falls, too.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio, with customary courage, called them out for their anti-democratic activity:

Germany just gave its spy agency new powers to surveil the opposition. That’s not democracy—it’s tyranny in disguise.

What is truly extremist is not the popular AfD—which took second in the recent election—but rather the establishment’s deadly open border immigration policies…
— Secretary Marco Rubio (@SecRubio) May 2, 2025

He got this grotesque backtalk from some anonymous bureaucrat speaking mendaciously from behind the German government transom:

WOW! Look at the German Foreign Office’s direct response to Secretary Marco Rubio’s post

My wife has a cousin and his family (American husband / German wife) living in Germany. I spoke with the cousin's father recently about the German elections and AfD; the father said as far as he can tell, the population in the area where the son and his family live are pretty conservative, and there is definite growing animosity towards most immigrants. Even the old-school / long term immigrants are against the newcomers.

How soon before AfD members have to wear yellow arm bands?

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What kind of a government tries to shut down its political opponents?

This kind...

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This kind...

Ha! Exactly.

Today the agency rescinded the labeling of the AFD, wonder if the new Chancelor had anything to do with it.

I think other European countries have outlawed, or attempted to outlaw, conservative parties.

They still doing what they're predecessors in the USSR, NAZI Germany and Fascist Italy did, only without firing a shot.


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Today the agency rescinded the labeling of the AFD, wonder if the new Chancelor had anything to do with it.

That is very good news.



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