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Originally posted by irreverent:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
Women yearn to be controlled, this is what happens when they are given too much autonomy.

this is a position I used to think cruel, reality has bared it out to be true.

WTF? This is just plain weird. Yes, the chick the video is annoying as fuck, but I’m not sure how you leap to this conclusion..
I’m not interested in being “controlled”. I’m interested in a partner.

Here are a couple of FACTS that you can take to the bank.

1.) Women aren't happy and/or fulfilled in a relationship unless they feel a certain amount of intimidation toward the man in their life. In all my years, I have witnessed this phenomena many, many times. Some men and women come from families in which the mother wore the pants in the house. Those men will seek out women that will dominate them (like their mothers did their fathers), and their sisters will seek out men they can dominate. But, take note: Those women who hook up with men they can dominate live miserable lives. They have no RESPECT for their husbands, and respect is as important to a woman as good looks are to a man.

2.) When a woman respects her mate, there is the possibility of real wedded bliss.

Let me tell you about two experiences my wife and I had. One of my friends named Jim was raised in a household wherein the mother was in the position of authority. Consequently, his two wives have been both less than satisfied with their lives, even though Jim makes a ton of money and turns it all over to his wife. When Jim was still married to his first wife, they invited us to go to a big party they gave for all their friends. There must've been 40+ people there - all married couples. My wife and I watched amazed as all of the males grouped together in one room and discussed work, while the women grouped together in another room and ran down their husbands to each other. None of the women worked or had kids to raise, but they talked endlessly about how unhappy they were with their husbands.

A couple of weeks later, the leader of the band I was in had a party at his house, and again there were approximately 40 people there. But, the men at this party were alpha men - they were the authority figures in their homes. What a difference! Everybody - both men and women seemed happy!

As an amateur psychologist (my father was a psychologist) I have learned to recognize almost immediately the signs that indicate whether a man was raised in a home wherein his father was the authority figure versus the opposite. When a man surrenders his place as the spiritual leader in the home, everybody suffers, and the damages of his doing so pass on to the next generation.

When I was dating, I almost immediately knew what kind of household my date was raised in. When they tried to assume authority, I had a ton of fun with them! Sometimes my unwillingness to be controlled would drive them crazy! I was casually obstinate about my determining my own fate, and they would trip hard.

In the Bible, after God pronounced the curse on Adam, He then spoke to Eve. He told her, (paraphrased) "You'll always seek to strip your man's authority over you and be authoritative over your man. But, if you succeed, you'll be miserable."

Never truer words have been spoken.

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Originally posted by synthplayer:

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Originally posted by irreverent:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
Women yearn to be controlled, this is what happens when they are given too much autonomy.

this is a position I used to think cruel, reality has bared it out to be true.

WTF? This is just plain weird. Yes, the chick the video is annoying as fuck, but I’m not sure how you leap to this conclusion..
I’m not interested in being “controlled”. I’m interested in a partner.

Here are a couple of FACTS that you can take to the bank.

1.) Women aren't happy and/or fulfilled in a relationship unless they feel a certain amount of intimidation toward the man in their life. In all my years, I have witnessed this phenomena many, many times. Some men and women come from families in which the mother wore the pants in the house. Those men will seek out women that will dominate them (like their mothers did their fathers), and their sisters will seek out men they can dominate. But, take note: Those women who hook up with men they can dominate live miserable lives. They have no RESPECT for their husbands, and respect is as important to a woman as good looks are to a man.

2.) When a woman respects her mate, there is the possibility of real wedded bliss.

Let me tell you about two experiences my wife and I had. One of my friends named Jim was raised in a household wherein the mother was in the position of authority. Consequently, his two wives have been both less than satisfied with their lives, even though Jim makes a ton of money and turns it all over to his wife. When Jim was still married to his first wife, they invited us to go to a big party they gave for all their friends. There must've been 40+ people there - all married couples. My wife and I watched amazed as all of the males grouped together in one room and discussed work, while the women grouped together in another room and ran down their husbands to each other. None of the women worked or had kids to raise, but they talked endlessly about how unhappy they were with their husbands.

A couple of weeks later, the leader of the band I was in had a party at his house, and again there were approximately 40 people there. But, the men at this party were alpha men - they were the authority figures in their homes. What a difference! Everybody - both men and women seemed happy!

As an amateur psychologist (my father was a psychologist) I have learned to recognize almost immediately the signs that indicate whether a man was raised in a home wherein his father was the authority figure versus the opposite. When a man surrenders his place as the spiritual leader in the home, everybody suffers, and the damages of his doing so pass on to the next generation.

When I was dating, I almost immediately knew what kind of household my date was raised in. When they tried to assume authority, I had a ton of fun with them! Sometimes my unwillingness to be controlled would drive them crazy! I was casually obstinate about my determining my own fate, and they would trip hard.

In the Bible, after God pronounced the curse on Adam, He then spoke to Eve. He told her, (paraphrased) "You'll always seek to strip your man's authority over you and be authoritative over your man. But, if you succeed, you'll be miserable."

Never truer words have been spoken.

1) this is anedoctal.
2) mutual respect is different than being controlled.


Perhaps I misunderstand.

My mom was a hardcore Gloria Steinem era teacher’s union feminist. She was fairly radical back then. But no where near the toxicity of this Zoe chick. My mom was already married with children when she turned militant feminist. So when she saw the damage she was doing she moderated. I think Zoe is too far behind the curve. By the time she suspects she’s damaged herself, it’ll be too late. She will have missed her boat. No real man will want that train wreck in his life. She’ll die alone with her cats who, when the food bowls go empty, will consume her corpse until someone does a welfare check. This is not baseless speculation. I’ve seen that scenario before. Happened to an elderly woman one street away from us back in the 90s.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Modern feminism is the pathogen. Social media is merely the method of transmission. Social media conveys anything which can be spoken, written, displayed or represented in any manner, so, in and of itself, social media is not the problem. Without modern feminist propaganda, there would be no issue, because it is the source, and now that this propaganda has taken foothold and propagated into society, the damage is done.

None of us would condemn social media if it were being used for promotion of traditional gender roles and family values. The message is the issue, and the message originated with modern feminism.

I agree with you as modern feminism was a massive problem prior to social media. All I was saying was that if modern feminism was the fire, social media was gasoline poured on top of it. The dating apps are kerosene. And the fire is out of control now.

Saying that all women want to be controlled by men is like saying that all men are knuckle-dragging Neanderthals who want nothing more than to control the women in their lives.

That blinkered claim is certainly not true of the many women I’ve gotten to know well throughout my lifetime. If that has been someone’s sole experiences with women, I can only suggest what I’d say to the women who make equally bigoted claims about men: You need to start spending time with different people.

I watched the entire clip only because I thought Mr Mittens was going to jump into her lap and make her shut up and smile for a few seconds.

It never happened.

I think I’ll go tell Mrs DF that she wants to be controlled. Hold my beer…

Don't forget to tell her she's overreacting and to calm down.

happily married for 38 yrs,

when my brother was dating, he went out with a woman who he got along with socially,

she brought up the 2020 election and asked who he voted for

there was no second date,


he voted trump

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Originally posted by oddball:
Forget the politics, she is just a relentlessly annoying, clueless person

I couldn't get past 3 seconds. I don't know if the video is artificially sped up but if that is her normal talking pace, I would get tired listening to her in 5 minutes.

That's like a full assault yap machine. I consider Ben Shapiro a fast talker along with Chael Sonnen (MMA guy) but I'm not sure if it's her speed of talking along with her voice pitch that I can't stand.

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Originally posted by PHPaul:
If, God forfend, I should ever find myself alone again, I'll get a pet.

I would rather stab myself in the eye with a rusty nail than re-enter the dating scene.

I 100% agree.

I thankfully was never in the "dating scene", and from what I saw of it from the outside looking in, what a nightmare it is! We've had a lot of single friends who just couldn't handle being single. They were unfulfilled without a mate. They did the online dating thing and spent all kinds of time and money looking for someone to marry. And in most cases, when they found someone they could live with, they settled. It worked out for a few of them, but a lot are even more miserable now than they were when they were single, and some are divorced.

The idea of just plucking a random person off a website with the intent of vetting them and potentially making them your spouse is just crazy to me. This video demonstrates that point. Crazy liberal chick, dating a dude from Indiana...clearly there are going to be philosophical issues, and that's before you even begin to address her toxic personality. These people shouldn't even be together...they're from two different worlds. But in the world of online dating where you are connecting with people from everywhere instead of being limited to those you live and interact with in real life, this is what you get.

My wife and I met the old fashioned way. We were friends first, after a few years decided we wanted to start dating, and got married when she was 19 and I was 20. I was perfectly happy being single, in fact, I was having a great time, but I found somebody that I wanted to do everything with and figured I'd better lock that in! I've been married to her for half my life now, and couldn't imagine sharing my life with anybody else. Best decision I ever made.

If something happened to her, I'd go back to being single. I'd miss her, but it would be her I'm missing, not the state of being married. If another relationship developed organically I might re-marry eventually, but it's highly unlikely that that would happen, and I definitely wouldn't go looking for it.

I won’t do it. I’ve been widowed since 2017. I’m 46 with a seven year old little girl. Trying to date would be a logistical nightmare. There are moments where I feel that loneliness, but in the famous last words of Cowboy, “I can hack it.”

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Originally posted by FP2000H:
I won’t do it. I’ve been widowed since 2017. I’m 46 with a seven year old little girl. Trying to date would be a logistical nightmare. There are moments where I feel that loneliness, but in the famous last words of Cowboy, “I can hack it.”

My deepest sympathies on your loss. I don’t blame you for not dating, not one bit. You have enough on your plate raising a young woman alone in this day and age.

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I tried to listen to her. I really did.

Me too. But I only lasted 5 seconds before I realized I didn't have another 3:46 to waste listening to her.

Me too. All I heard was “let me tell you how politics ruined my last relationship”. No bitch, you ruined it. End of story.

She’s ugly on the inside! I couldn’t even make it through a minute of her narcissistic rant. Bitch you did that man a huge favor b/c he obviously had not outgrown sticking it in crazy.

Liberalism is a mental disease. Why are liberals so illiberal?

This kind of goes along with what’s in this thread.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._culture_matter.html

Why Incel and 4B Culture Matter

If you wanted to destroy American culture, where might you start? If time scales were not your primary concern and you were patient, convincing Americans not to have babies would do the job quite nicely. At the same time, import a few million foreigners (actually 20+ million) and let them start having babies at twice the native rate, all while subsidizing them, including giving them free phones so they can call home and say, “Get the heck over here while the getting’s good!” Oh, wait, thanks to the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, that door just slammed shut. But what about that birthrate issue?

Last year was the first year in our history when our population would have declined were it not for an influx of illegal immigrants. Birthrates for whites are now at 50 per 1,000 women. That compares to Hispanic at 56, black at 52, and Asian at 50. The birthrate of illegal immigrants includes 400,000 birthright babies, accounting for 22% of all births in the US for the last year for which information is available.

Excluding aliens, America’s birthrate, particularly white births, is resulting in a declining white population. One need not be a racist to be concerned that the traditional producer class is dying off. Many non-political factors contribute to this decline, including reduced fertility rates, choice, financial ability to have children, etc. But what if there were other reasons to help explain the demise of white births that are much more nefarious or unexplained?

I watched the Netflix movie series Adolescence the other night. My wife and I were not sure what we were watching at first, as this British series was of the ‘you are there’ variety, and you only slowly began to understand the plot. This well-worth-watching mini-series introduced us to the term Incel, a portmanteau word for “involuntary celibate.”

I had never heard the term Incel previously. Still, a close friend, known sometimes to inhabit fringe thinking spaces, was well-informed, telling me this began in Europe some time ago. Not coincidentally, with its millions of foreign aliens, mainly Middle Eastern, Europe is in much worse shape than we are.

According to Wikipedia, “incels” encompass a primarily online subculture of young men, who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one, and who may blame, objectify and denigrate women and girls as a result. While the majority of Incels are non-violent, the community has gained attention due to a small number of individuals committing violent acts inspired by extremist ideologies. Studies suggest that Incel communities are predominantly young, heterosexual men, often grappling with feelings of rejection and isolation.

To learn more, read this Harvard article that explains how power dynamics between men and women may have toppled the societal apple cart. We see a lot of men who subscribe to the premise that 80% of women are attracted to just 20% of men. Many men believe they cannot achieve a historically normal lifestyle and family.

The Incel culture, to the extent there is one, seems to be primarily a social media phenomenon, which makes sense, given that its adherents have mostly abandoned real relationships. Despite the damage it’s causing to huge cohorts of young men who are encouraged to disengage from society, few people seem to be doing anything about this phenomenon.

If we were talking about bullying, sexting, or any one of the other dangerous or destructive social media trends, it would be different. All garner a lot of attention. Not so with a trend that, given time, will destroy the most productive social class the world has ever known. Europe is already there; we seem to be next. Have you noticed all the young men are no longer on the path to buying a home, marrying, or having children, especially within wedlock?

A universal truism is that life seeks equilibrium; it does that to ensure the survival of the species. Nature abhors radicalism and breeds out genetic features and variants at odds with the species’ survival. We’ve talked about men, but we’ve largely not tied women into the equation. Enter the 4b Movement. Never heard of it before? Neither had I until another mini-series, The Recruit, introduced me to the term. Here’s what this genuinely terrifying group states:

4B or “Four Nos” is a radical feminist movement that originated in South Korea. The name refers to its defining four tenets, starting with the Korean-language term bi (Korean: 비; Hanja: 非), roughly meaning “no.” Its adherents do not date men, marry men, have sex with men, or have children with men. The movement emerged between 2017 and 2019 on Twitter and on the website WOMAD. It has since spread internationally to the United States after the 2024 presidential election.

Hatred of men, like the hatred of Jews, is pushed by Democrats (toxic masculinity, anyone), and an incredible number of young men and women are now swearing off the essence of what a thriving culture must do to survive. Due to space constraints, I can’t name all the variations of reflexive hatred that have found a home in Europe and the US, and now even in formally ‘traditional’ countries like Korea.

It’s difficult to believe that entire generations of young people refusing to procreate is a natural phenomenon. The very thought of men and women hating each other at a base level is frightening in its implications. Its unnaturalness leads any thinking individual to conclude that some outside force is exerting control on young, impressionable minds, leading to the ultimate self-destructive behavior.

I bet that a small cadre of leftist progressives who hate Western Civilization has opened up yet another front in the war against conservative thinking. How diabolical when you think about it, have your enemy destroy themselves by not reproducing. Sun Tzu would be proud.

There are plenty of feminized men out there. She will lead one around on a leash, with a whip.

She must be very good in bed - I only made it 45 sec.

She needs to meet Andrew "Dice" Clay when he was in his prime, her head would explode.