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Naval Officer gone overboard...
August 05, 2017, 08:22 AM
chuck416Naval Officer gone overboard...
Apparently, the Chief Engineer, gone missing at sea.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017...missing-at-sea.html?August 05, 2017, 08:24 AM
parabellumHave they made a thorough search of the engine room?
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August 05, 2017, 08:58 AM
PHPaulquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Have they made a thorough search of the engine room?
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August 05, 2017, 09:05 AM
grecoIs that the Navy equivalent of "fragging" an incompetent officer?
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6gunsI wonder if he was a real asshole? I sure hope it didn't go down that way, but I've heard stories.
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August 05, 2017, 09:22 AM
AglifterIf he's been in for 8 years, shouldn't he be more than an alt?
August 05, 2017, 09:24 AM
ulstermanLot's of places to hide on a ship.
August 05, 2017, 09:32 AM
Bullshooterquote:
Originally posted by Aglifter:
If he's been in for 8 years, shouldn't he be more than an lt?
Probably an Engineering Limited Duty Officer (Former enlisted).
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August 05, 2017, 09:41 AM
TommydoggCitadel graduate, so he was not a Mustang. I wonder if any one checked the main reduction gears!
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August 05, 2017, 10:06 AM
Balzé HalzéHe was commissioned in 2009 and only a lieutenant, but he was already the ship's chief engineer?
I find that interesting. I've never served in an officer capacity aboard a Navy vessel despite 15 years in the Navy Reserves so have questions about how billets are chosen, particularly in the engine department. When I finally got my Unlimited chief engineer license (Merchant Marine), the Navy offered me a promotion to Lieutenant Commander. I assumed there was a minimum rank required to serve the function of Chief Engineer aboard a Navy ship.
Even in the Merchant Marine, simply having the credentials doesn't mean a company will hire you to be the chief engineer. Experience and knowledge count just as much.
Then again, it could just be crappy reporting by the media as usual.
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rwdflynavyYou are an LT for 5 years. 2 years to LTJG and another 2 to LT, so the math is about right. Department heads on DDGs are usually senior LT/LCDR selects.
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August 05, 2017, 10:24 AM
V-TailA lot of "only a Lt." remarks above.
Not sure whether the authors of those posts know, but Navy Lieutanant is O-3, same level as Captain in the other services. Next step up is Lieutenant Commander (same level as Major in the other service branches).
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים August 05, 2017, 10:25 AM
billnchristyChENG on a carrier is a lcdr or cdr but I can see it being a lt on a small boy.
August 05, 2017, 10:32 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
A lot of "only a Lt." remarks above.
Not sure whether the authors of those posts know, but Navy Lieutanant is O-3, same level as Captain in the other services. Next step up is Lieutenant Commander (same level as Major in the other service branches).
I'm aware of that. My comment was in regards to him being a chief engineer and only a LT.
On a Merchant vessel, the chief engineer is essentially second only to the Captain and in many ways is his equal. An 03 is pretty much a guaranteed rank in the Navy.
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navyshooterI did 7 deployments in DD'S, DDG'S, and CG'S. A LT was CHENG on all of them.
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August 05, 2017, 11:23 AM
chongosuertequote:
Originally posted by Tommydogg:
Citadel graduate, so he was not a Mustang. I wonder if any one checked the main reduction gears!
Just a tidbit, one can attend the academies/Citadel/VMI/regular ROTC having been prior enlisted. There are multiple programs for it, though I don't remember the specific details. I'd expect you'd have to be selected for the program during your first enlistment, as there are age limits.
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August 05, 2017, 11:31 AM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by chongosuerte:
quote:
Originally posted by Tommydogg:
Citadel graduate, so he was not a Mustang. I wonder if any one checked the main reduction gears!
Just a tidbit, one can attend the academies/Citadel/VMI/regular ROTC having been prior enlisted. There are multiple programs for it, though I don't remember the specific details. I'd expect you'd have to be selected for the program during your first enlistment, as there are age limits.
The inference is he was a ROTC graduate. A few of them might be slight prior enlisted, not really "mustangs" as that term is generally meant. Example, I had 5 years as reserve radioman, no active duty, before receiving a commission through OCS, and would not be thought of as a mustang.
My brother enlisted in the Reserve for about a year before Regular Navy ROTC.
There used to be a program for active duty enlisted to attend college, get a degree and then a commission through OCS, called NESEP.
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August 06, 2017, 12:49 PM
zoom6zoomIt's the Chief that really runs the department anyway.
Hope he wasn't wearing that stupid blue multicam.
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