I had an iPhone like that a few models back, just had major Wi-Fi issues right out of the box. I took it back to the Apple Store and they ran some sort of diagnostic that determined it was a bad Wi-Fi module or something and replaced it on the spot.

Years ago an iOS nuked my iPhone 4s Wifi. It was discovered that it did it to the the chips from a certain parts provider. That is well documented.
In better countries than mine, Apple replaced the phones with no warranty that it would not happen again. I was SOL.

Also, once replaced the glass from my first iPad and The antena was bot replaced properly. It would connect feets away from the router.

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At least the OP finally got his iphone fixed. I have purevpn and have used it from time to time. But I hope I remember this thread if I get wifi problems.

So NordVPN had been turned off but it was in actuality still on.

Seems obvious to me that the fault lies with NordVPN, not the iPhone.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
So NordVPN had been turned off but it was in actuality still on.

Seems obvious to me that the fault lies with NordVPN, not the iPhone.

Depends on how you look at it, but it seems to be an issue with iOS 15.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nordv...patible_with_ios_15/

-Rob

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Originally posted by BurtonRW:

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
So NordVPN had been turned off but it was in actuality still on.

Seems obvious to me that the fault lies with NordVPN, not the iPhone.

Depends on how you look at it, but it seems to be an issue with iOS 15.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nordv...patible_with_ios_15/

-Rob

Yep, and the fix will have to be on NordVPNs side.

This is the second time in, I think, as many months a problem somebody was having turned out to be their use of a VPN. Last time I asked so I will, this time, too: BurtonRW: Why are you using a VPN in the first place?

Do you spend a lot of time on foreign public WiFi networks?

Sooo, the iPhone worked fine until the update to iOS 15, which resulted in WiFi connectivity issues, but it's NordVPN's problem, and they need to fix it...

Just another example in a VERY long history of 'updates' causing issues w/ perfectly functioning devices! These are NOT uncommon occurrences, and certainly NOT limited to Apple....Are you listening Microsoft? Just another example why reflexively updating, or even worse, 'Auto-Updating' is NEVER good policy!

I'm glad the OP is back up and running. Lots of good suggestions here - but I'll add one that has worked for me before.

Even when it really looks like the WIFI on the device is the problem, sometimes re-booting the router can help. Just a thought ...

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
This is the second time in, I think, as many months a problem somebody was having turned out to be their use of a VPN. Last time I asked so I will, this time, too: BurtonRW: Why are you using a VPN in the first place?

Do you spend a lot of time on foreign public WiFi networks?

No, but that's just the thing. I'm on public wifi as little as possible (when cellular data is unreliable or very weak, for example - like in the courthouse where I most frequently practice) and so I use NordVPN relatively rarely, but it wasn't the use of it that was causing the problems - it was merely having it installed. That's the annoying part.

Also, remember this wasn't just a wi-fi issue. It was affecting quite a few apps which wouldn't connect over cellular data at all.

I remember reading a couple of articles speculating whether "private relay" was Apple's VPN-killer (I think TechRadar put it that way), and now I'm not sure they were wrong. Not sure this is entirely accidental on Apple's part.

-Rob

Silly me, i thought Apple reign on their OS and what is allowed or not on their devices was the reason we are paying a plus and subject to their ever-changing policies.

Still not loving my iPhone 12 Pro and eager to return to an Android device. We understand each other much better.

MS has been doing the same sheit lately since W10. An update would stab programs to death and just leave them there for you to find their corpses. It’s for your own good they say….



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Originally posted by BurtonRW:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
This is the second time in, I think, as many months a problem somebody was having turned out to be their use of a VPN. Last time I asked so I will, this time, too: BurtonRW: Why are you using a VPN in the first place?

Do you spend a lot of time on foreign public WiFi networks?

No, but that's just the thing. I'm on public wifi as little as possible (when cellular data is unreliable or very weak, for example - like in the courthouse where I most frequently practice) and so I use NordVPN relatively rarely, ...

Ah, that's right: You're a lawyer. High-value target. Probably relatively often are obliged to use your mobile device(s) on foreign, perhaps public, WiFi networks.

A VPN definitely makes sense in your case.

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... but it wasn't the use of it that was causing the problems - it was merely having it installed. That's the annoying part.

I understood that.

The point I made last time a VPN-related issue arose was why was the member even using a VPN in the first place. Turned out there was no technically valid reason.

That isn't to say that, if somebody wants to use a VPN, by all means: Use a VPN. But, many times, all many people are accomplishing by doing so is incurring unnecessary expense and adding another failure point.

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Originally posted by BurtonRW:
Also, remember this wasn't just a wi-fi issue. It was affecting quite a few apps which wouldn't connect over cellular data at all.

Understood.

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Originally posted by BurtonRW:
I remember reading a couple of articles speculating whether "private relay" was Apple's VPN-killer (I think TechRadar put it that way), and now I'm not sure they were wrong. Not sure this is entirely accidental on Apple's part.

I suspect more because it might do away with the need for a VPN service in some users' minds (see below) than because it would break VPN apps. I can't imagine what advantage to Apple would be gained by them purposely breaking VPN functionality.

N.B.: Apple iOS' Private Relay is not a VPN, or even really VPN-like. It only does anything for Safari, and it doesn't obfuscate the mobile device's IP address.

If a program you're running doesn't turn off when you tell it to, it's the program's fault. They hung their code on the wrong thing.

I saw a very similar thing to this a few years back when I was doing contract work for Homeland Security.

Two identical systems were done simultaneously, one in Nellis AFB in Las Vegas and one in Washington DC.

I programmed the one in Nellis, another guy programmed the one in D.C.

When Homeland Security got a notice of a firmware upgrade for their Video Conferencer, they first uploaded it in the system at Nellis because I'm within a few hours of there in case there was a problem. They uploaded, checked everything and everything worked fine.

They uploaded it at D.C. and several things quit working. Pretty much the same situation we have here.

Turns out the way the guy coded the system in D.C. caused several things to quit working because of what he hung the code on. He claimed he wrote it too tight, but I got to see and fix his code and it wasn't too tight, it was just flat programmed wrong. The guy didn't have enough experience to write code in such a way that firmware upgrades wouldn't kill things.

I'd ask Siri. She'll get it fixed for ya!