“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams
December 17, 2017, 12:03 PM
corsair
Classic heart-string, click-bait article. The pictures were worth more than the words written. Tragic but, could've been avoided.
December 17, 2017, 12:09 PM
BamaJeepster
It's just a dad-gum mystery. One day all the kids were fat, dumb and happy and all of a sudden they are starving now. Oh well, I guess sometimes it just happens!?!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams
December 17, 2017, 12:57 PM
feersum dreadnaught
inexplicable as to why millions of kulaks always have to starve during the "great leap forward".
guess they are just not holding their mouths right - now that I ponder a nano-second, hasn't been one of those socialist nirvanas that actually works for the people
NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught"
December 17, 2017, 01:26 PM
darthfuster
It's cognitive dissonance. The other day I found myself driving behind some Leftist scatacephalic with a 'Feel the Bern' bumper sticker among other trite propaganda rainbow festooned tags. I just shook my head that anyone could be aware enough to physically place such messages on her car, but not enough to understand the destruction at least one of those messages promotes. As I passed her I looked at her profile and thought to myself, "that's about right...."
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
December 17, 2017, 01:35 PM
airsoft guy
Ayuckshuyally, Venezuela isn't real socialism, real socialism has never been tried! We just need the right people in charge, and those right people are me, and if you disagree I'll have you dragged into the street and shot, you fascist dog.
quote:
Originally posted by Will938: If you don't become a screen writer for comedy movies, then you're an asshole.
December 17, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jim Shugart
I don't know why y'all must always focus on the negative. Some folks in Venezuela are doing quite well.
Take Maria Chaves for example. One of the daughters of Hugo Chaves has risen from poverty to relative affluence by hard work, saving, and by making sound investments.
When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw
December 17, 2017, 01:43 PM
feersum dreadnaught
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Shugart: I don't know why y'all must always focus on the negative. Some folks in Venezuela are doing quite well.
Take Maria Chaves for example. One of the daughters of Hugo Chaves has risen from poverty to relative affluence by hard work, saving, and by making sound investments.
Just like some folks start off with minor investments in cattle futures... Hope that they both follow in the path of another great socialist, Nicolae Ceausescu
NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught"
December 17, 2017, 01:44 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by airsoft guy: Ayuckshuyally, Venezuela isn't real socialism, real socialism has never been tried! We just need the right people in charge, and those right people are me, and if you disagree I'll have you dragged into the street and shot, you fascist dog.
When confronted with this argument recently I did a reversal on my opponent. He expected me to resist his assertion for which he was prepared with a tedious laundry list of rebuttals and obfuscations. My response was in the affirmative. Socialism has not been tried by the right people in the right way. They only way it will work is if applied voluntarily where all involved are so of their own free will. The only way it is sustainable is if all involved have refined out of their character greed, avarice, envy, sloth, selfishness, exploitation etc. You find me that society and I'll join voluntarily. The rub is that every Leftist method encourages those poor characteristics in the individual hence Leftism consumes the probability of utopian existence.
The look on his face was picturesque. He's a Leftist fecal brain so he rejected my assertion eventually and reprogrammed himself with a week of NPR.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
December 17, 2017, 01:44 PM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by airsoft guy: Ayuckshuyally, Venezuela isn't real socialism, real socialism has never been tried! We just need the right people in charge, and those right people are me, and if you disagree I'll have you dragged into the street and shot, you fascist dog.
That was one of the first responses he got on the tweets I posted in the OP
These commies are nothing if not predictable!
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams
December 17, 2017, 01:45 PM
LS1 GTO
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster: It's just a dad-gum mystery. One day all the kids were fat, dumb and happy and all of a sudden they are starving now. Oh well, I guess sometimes it just happens!?!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's Cause they depended on oil, black gold,Texas tea.
If those top one-percenters would just give up their glutteness dependency on that black evil and develop a zero-emissions transpartation which anyone can afford, then all them Chavez keeds would be fat(ter), dumb(er), and the happiest chillins in the whole wide world.
Dang rich folk...
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
"If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers
The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...
December 17, 2017, 01:47 PM
Sgt Neutron
At least here's another article from the NYT that explains what's happening:
"Venezuela was once one of Latin America’s richest countries, flush with oil wealth that attracted immigrants from places as varied as Europe and the Middle East.
But after President Hugo Chávez vowed to break the country’s economic elite and redistribute wealth to the poor, the rich and middle class fled to more welcoming countries in droves, creating what demographers describe as Venezuela’s first diaspora.
Now a second diaspora is underway — much less wealthy and not nearly as welcome.
Well over 150,000 Venezuelans have fled the country in the last year alone, the highest in more than a decade, according to scholars studying the exodus."
December 17, 2017, 02:04 PM
Woodman
Venezuela has the largest oil reserves, and the eighth largest natural gas reserves in the world, and consistently ranks among the top ten world crude oil producers. - wiki
December 17, 2017, 05:08 PM
Scoutmaster
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster: It's just a dad-gum mystery. One day all the kids were fat, dumb and happy and all of a sudden they are starving now. Oh well, I guess sometimes it just happens!?!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's Cause they depended on oil, black gold,Texas tea.
If those top one-percenters would just give up their glutteness dependency on that black evil and develop a zero-emissions transpartation which anyone can afford, then all them Chavez keeds would be fat(ter), dumb(er), and the happiest chillins in the whole wide world.
Dang rich folk...
I knew it, capitalism is to blame for starving kids.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
December 18, 2017, 01:35 AM
sjtill
It's just "bad luck" in the Heinlein sense.
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December 18, 2017, 05:27 AM
XinTX
If you took half the money the Chavez cronies looted from the economy when oil was booming and invested in improving the infrastructure in Venezuela, that place would have been a paradise now. Instead it's only a paradise for those that managed to loot enough to make it so for themselves.
_______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand
“If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul
December 18, 2017, 06:07 AM
SIGSense
Now is the time for ALL true American Socialists to immediately head for Venezuela. Their total understanding of what needs to be done will stop this crisis in its tracks. Then, in order to ensure their assistance has brought TRUE enlightenment -- they need to stay and fulfill Utopian ideals.
December 18, 2017, 06:26 AM
Patrick-SP2022
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Originally posted by sjtill: It's just "bad luck" in the Heinlein sense.
I am not that familiar with Heinlein's work so I looked this up. Very true and appropriate.
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“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded—here and there, now and then—are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as ‘bad luck’.” – Robert A. Heinlein
December 18, 2017, 07:55 AM
PHPaul
RAH was a flippin' genius. My favorite author of all time.
Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
December 18, 2017, 07:57 AM
220-9er
I've got the perfect solution for all.
Send Bernie (and his wife) and Barack down there to straighten things out and polish up their street cred for perfect socialism before the next election.
With all that potential oil money and tight government control already in place, what could possibly go wrong?