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Nullus Anxietas |
I've mentioned Signal Private Messenger in-passing several times. Given all that's going on I thought now was an especially appropriate time to bring it up, explicitly. My wife keeps having family members and friends ask her to install WhatsApp. I keep telling her "It's your phone. Do what you want. I strongly recommend against it." So she's resisted. Meanwhile, she's continued to use Facebook Messenger against my advice. I just showed her this graphic: (Sorry for the size, but it's hard enough to read, as-is, w/o me shrinking it.) from WhatsApp Beaten By Apple’s New iMessage Privacy Update "Hmmm...", she said. "I'm going to have to try harder to get friends and family to switch." The big story here, IMO, isn't so much how little metadata Apple's iMessage sends along, but how much even WhatsApp does--never mind Facebook Messenger. If you read the related article: It's even worse than what the graphic suggests. Maybe WhatsApp was a viably secure messaging platform before Facebook acquired it, but not anymore, IMO. A final note: Re: The metadata iMessage sends along: Apple has an unambiguous, strong privacy policy, unlike other tech companies I could name. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | ||
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Here's another article about WhatsApp's new anti-privacy policy. Cardinal rule: Assume that there is no privacy with everything connected to the tech oligarchy. Ironically, I'm wondering if a new "internet" will need to be created that will be just like what the DoD envisioned in case of a nuclear war; alternate DNS servers, etc.
https://www.independent.co.uk/...policy-b1783880.html ...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I just installed Signal. I've been growing very suspect of WhatsApp as of late. I'll be all too happy to abandon them. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
What's App is the dominant messaging app used in India and Latin America. WeChat is the only game in China and we know it's not secure at all, since the government monitors it. When I try to get people with iPhones who use WeChat, What's App, or FB messenger, to use iMessage instead, they act like it's a big hassle and are all confused about using it for inexplicable reasons. When FB messenger censored the link I sent to a friend about the Hunter Biden laptop stuff, I knew it was time to dump messenger. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Plus you have to know it's only a matter of time until WhatsApp is as riddled with security and privacy holes has FB Messenger currently is. E.g.:
Wow, that's pretty bold, even of Facebook. In that respect: iMessage is probably better, because Apple has much better privacy policies than Facebook, IMO. But still there are two problems:
Signal Private Messenger suffers from neither of those defects. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
I've never heard of any of those, but I don't have a smart phone. I presume that is why. I sometimes receive mail on FB Messenger, but I never initiate one. I converse via plain e-mail and on Groups and Fora. They may not be secure, but they are what I have. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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I’m happy with signal and telegram. ----------------------------------------- Roll Tide! Glock Certified Armorer NRA Certified Firearms Instructor | |||
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FB is about to import/link all WhatsApp data into its system. Complete reversal of what had been stated..... I’m not surprised at all Edit... I see link was posted ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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I use signal and like it. Remember thats there's no security unless all parties are using it. | |||
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I’ve been thinking that maybe this is something we should all consider looking at doing, in case the big tech/governmental cancel tour continues and shuts sites like these forums down. We need a way to stay in contact with each other. Problem would be figuring out a way to share each other’s info so we can get connected (on whichever messaging service we feel is secure enough). | |||
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Truth Wins |
I never heard of Signal. I just use the default SMS Samsung ap that came on my phone. I see Jack Dorsey (Twitter) endorses Signal. Well that's encouraging. _____________ "I enter a swamp as a sacred place—a sanctum sanctorum. There is the strength—the marrow of Nature." - Henry David Thoreau | |||
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ALL of my Central American customers use Whatzapp. Actually all of my international customers......so I'm therefore stuck using it. I haven't had any issues with it and all my customers are Millionaires/billionaires and they use it....So I don't know....... I've never heard of Signal until this thread so will check into it. | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
Another gun forum I visit (yes, there are others) is resident on a host that has very strict rules about what can be posted, and there are severe restrictions on permissible subject matter. There is no guarantee that another venue could be found that would be as permissive as SF currently is. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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In the military and when deployed we use signal exclusively in the units I have been in and around. Dropped what’s app 4-5 years ago. | |||
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I wasn’t talking about moving to a new site, but rather having something as a backup like possibly this Signal app in case sites like these come under attack and start getting shut down. We need a way to keep in contact with each other, and not being local to each other provides a bit of difficulty in that regard. | |||
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Already on Signal...got the wife on as well. Couldn't get Telegram to validate. Said it would send an SMS that never arrived.
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Oh shit...that likely means they have some sort of hack into it...hes truly a piece of shit.
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Ugly Bag of Mostly Water |
My son is currently deployed in the middle of nowhere Kuwait. There is no cell signal available but they have WiFi. He uses Whatsapp to call or text, so we installed it as well. Once he is home (February), I don't see any need for it. Endowment Life Member, NRA • Member of FPC, GOA, 2AF & Arizona Citizens Defense League | |||
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I have been using both Signal and Telegram. Main issue I have with Signal is that it isn't available on tablets, only on phone for me. Telegram is decentralized on blockchain so should be pretty good. Trump also has a big channel on Telegram with 320K followers. Other conservatives such as Trump Jr, Dan Scavino, Jim Jordan, etc also have their own Telegram channels as well. | |||
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Signal works on what’s app. The Russians and Chinese have access to it. That is why the switch to signal. Used it in Kuwait as well. Afghanistan. | |||
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