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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
Was she pregnant with his child, or is that slipping into conspiracy theory?

Yes, definitely slipping into conspiracy.

This may be a day late and a dollar short, but well deserved.

its all a wasted effort as no one is going to pay the price

and yes, Teddy's been sober for 2940 days...well, other than being a bit pickled when they put his fat carcass in the ground

it would have been nice to see a Kennedy brought to justice, but democrats seem to skate on everything

If it helps puncture the Kennedy myth for one latter day Democrat supporter, I’m all for it.

Ted Kennedy:
The only "confirmed kill" in the War on Women.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

This may be a day late and a dollar short, but well deserved.

Like someone else posted, kind of a wasted effort since nobody really gives a shit about the Kennedy's anymore. Nobody talks about Bobby, and the rest of the kids, grandkids are bunch of nobodies. JFK is really not the benchmark anymore as far as Democratic politics, since they have gone to the far left in recent history, thanks to Barry. Maybe 10 years ago, but not now.

The Clintons, in a way, have taken the "mantel" away from the Kennedys, as far being the elitist, corrupt dynasty in this country.

I like this clip and play it occasionally because it's great. But it applies to Teddy and to the rest of the Kennedys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DFpfNFvnfM

Seems there have been a number of books, articles, commentary with credible allegations re the Kennedy men being philanderers/womanizers; also grossly dishonest, starting with the original Joe Kennedy. Most of the family fortune was gained illegally.

IIRC, a Kennedy housekeeper commented that before Chappaquiddick she rarely saw Joan (Ted's first wife) with an alcoholic drink. After Chapp, she rarely saw Joan without a drink. Other commentary makes it quite clear this was not just an employer taking a staffer home after a company get-together, the Kennedy account was a coverup of something much dirtier.

Also IIRC, Nancy Sinatra once made a comment (seemingly documented) that her father was connected with the mob helping swing the Illinois vote to JFK, a few days later she retracted the stmt, "on the advice of my father's attorneys".

I do believe we move on after this life, and that Ted has, or will have to, account for his actions (and I guess all of us will have to the same).

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Originally posted by oddball:....The Clintons, in a way, have taken the "mantel" away from the Kennedys, as far being the elitist, corrupt dynasty in this country...

You are likely correct, but the Clinton's don't have the glamor of the Kennedy Clan. Somehow I have wondered if the Obama's will follow the Kennedy-Clinton trend.

I've been there. It's pretty much impossible to turn onto that little road "by accident", and there's nothing on the other side of the shitty little bridge much more than a place to park or turn around.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
If it helps puncture the Kennedy myth for one latter day Democrat supporter, I’m all for it.

It won't. The leftists have moved so far beyond the Kennedy clan that most don't even know who they were anymore.

^^^^
Indeed. If he were alive today JFK would be considered a right wing facist.

movie to be released in the spring

trailer:

https://youtu.be/qG-c8DtOm9g


https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137...eads-to-desks-video/

if the movie is consistent w the trailer, DEMs won't be happy

remember in 2008 Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama over Clinton. That was a major break through for Obama. Rumors were that Obama promised to push healthcare if Kennedy supported him

Kennedy deeply resented how the Clintons failed w their healthcare pitch in the early 1990s

https://www.bostonglobe.com/ne...Fck3eCbvI/story.html

New Kennedy tape shows frustration with Clintons, health bid

from Sept 2015

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Originally posted by sdy:
Kennedy deeply resented how the Clintons failed w their healthcare pitch in the early 1990s
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New Kennedy tape shows frustration with Clintons, health bid

Jimmy Carter said that he's still pissed that Teddy shot down the hopes that JC would get healthcare through the senate while Jimmy was in office.
In an interview with 60 Minutes Correspondent Lesley Stahl, Mr. Carter accuses Kennedy, a longtime champion of health care reform, of impeding it for decades. The former president believes Kennedy's actions to kill Mr. Carter's own health care bill made the country wait for more than 30 years for sweeping reforms.

linky

I'm glad the POS is worm food.

Wonder if a similar book and movie will uncover the Monroe death? Same issue, same family.

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Originally posted by 18DAI:
If that SOB had owned a Volkswagen, he probably would have been President at some point.

Cowardly POS let that woman drown. Regards 18DAI

Everyone knew at the time Ted was guilty as sin but, money talked and that was the end of it.

I have always felt that John and Robert are dead because as the saying goes you "don't bite the hand that feeds you" and we all know they were dead after the mob and swore to put them out of business.

No one is going to care about this movie. Not because it won't be a multi million dollar blockbuster, not because it will get no press and have no ad budget, not because it's an almost fifty year old story, but because most people have never even heard of it. I've had friends, smart and fairly informed people who had never heard of it until I brought it up. History doesn't need to be rewritten, just conveniently forgotten.



Besides, the average movie going dullard will be busy watching "Fast and Furious Transformers XXV."

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Originally posted by downtownv:
I always thought about his DNA, as I think they had sex and had feared the costs of infidelity.

I am not convinced any Kennedy man in the past few generations ever feared the consequences of their actions.

When has a movie ever accurately depicted an event in history?

Reality is too boring, and nowhere near entertaining enough, to fill seats in a movie theater.

The movie out just now about Churchill is “a dramatization based on historic events.” IOW, mostly fiction.

The death of Saint Mary Jo* coincided with the moon landing in 1969. I was in Holland when both events were the big news, but the moon trumped the worthless asshole Teddy.

Later in the POS's life it was said; Kennedy Math - Ted Kennedy - minus pants - plus Scotch - equals PARTY

Soon after Ted's long overdue demise someone remarked: "He wasn't worth anyone even wasting a $.30 bullet on him!"

I hope he likes his "waitress sandwich" in HELL.

*She was canonized due to the miracle she performed: keeping Teddy out of the White House

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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
Wonder if a similar book and movie will uncover the Monroe death? Same issue, same family.

Much less speculation required for Chappaquidick than Monroe.