Just a thought.

If this runs the course I think it will, probably. USAID appears to be a smoking gun.

Should ask the boss directly. In the OFFICE.

It would be nice to see a huge DOGE thread go from discovery and astonishment, to inquiry and retribution.

I think a dedicated DOGE thread would be a good idea.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Should ask the boss directly. In the OFFICE.

Done. Thanks for the suggestion, Doc.

IMO, it all should be in the Year V Trump thread, since it is an important part of his presidency. It is stickied up at the top, and guaranteed to be up there for all to read and reference, while a separate thread could disappear to page 2, etc.

I'm with oddball. It's history in the making. Keep it all in one place.

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Originally posted by oddball:
IMO, it all should be in the Year V Trump thread, since it is an important part of his presidency. It is stickied up at the top, and guaranteed to be up there for all to read and reference, while a separate thread could disappear to page 2, etc.

Agreed, the DOGE concept is history making. Keep it in the Trump thread.

“Elon Musk has lauded DOGE's clean-up of a Social Security database which had millions of impossibly-aged Americans still on file.

The Department of Government Efficiency, headed by the billionaire 'first buddy,' discovered last month that the system for the U.S. Social Security Administration included millions of people above the age of 120, and even some over 200.

Musk jokingly called the efforts to delete these records a clearing of the 'dead people database.'

The DOGE X account posted overnight that the team has over the last two weeks marked as deceased 3.2 million people who were listed over the age of 120.

There are still millions, however, listed as living in that age bracket that the team is working to delete. …”


DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/14510863

Yesterday, the UK Daily Mail ran a story headlined, “Elon Musk reveals DOGE has found 14 'magic money computers' that create cash 'out of thin air.’”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...money-computers.html

Don’t bother. The gadgets are not available on Amazon; I already checked.



“You may think that government computers all talk to each other,” the space billionaire told Senator Ted Cruz in a podcast interview this weekend. “That they synchronize, that they add up what funds are going somewhere, and it’s, you know, coherent. And that the numbers you’re presented as a Senator are the real numbers. But they’re not.”

Musk continued, “I call them magic money computers— any computer that can just make money out of thin air, that’s magic money. They’re mostly at Treasury, there’s some at HHS, there’s one at State, one at DoD. We’ve found 14 of them.”

“How does it work?” Senator Cruz asked. Musk answered, “It just issues payments!”

Progressive critics pounced, condemning the comment. Musk is trying to undermine confidence in the Treasury! But they didn’t deny it, either. Not exactly. For example:



Of course, every new magic dollar created by the government fractionally dilutes the value of every existing dollar in our bank accounts, shaving a little bit off every time. In other words, magic-money-making is a tax, in the form of inflation. A tax that pays for crowd favorites like Ukrainian tanks, for the Russians to test their drones and missiles on, or worse, to be sold in the box in a Kiev farmer’s market to a South American drug cartel for pennies on the dollar.

But, contrary to progressives’ complaints, managing the money supply is not supposed to work this way. The federal government is supposed to issue debt whenever it increases the money supply, so that we can keep track of things.

The federal government is not supposed to magically issue funny money payments.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...uesday-march-18-2025

DOGE agents are accused of 'breaking into' and taking over US Institute of Peace days after CEO refused access

Sound like a USAID-type agency that needs to be entirely dismantled.

“Agents from Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency are accused of breaking into the nonprofit US Institute of Peace on Monday night as it continues to take a chainsaw to waste, fraud and abuse in Washington.

The organization's CEO, George Moose, said, 'DOGE has broken into our building' after having been turned away on Friday. [heh heh]

'President Trump signed an executive order to reduce USIP to its statutory minimum. After noncompliance, 11 board members were lawfully removed, and remaining board members appointed Kenneth Jackson acting president,' a spokesperson for Donald Trump told DailyMail.com in a statement.
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The order also targeted the Inter-American Foundation, the United States African Development Foundation, and The Presidio Trust, and said they should be 'eliminated to the maximum extent consistent with applicable law,' the outlet reported.

The administration has since moved to fire and cancel programs at some of those organizations.

The African Development Foundation, which also unsuccessfully tried to keep DOGE staff from entering its offices in Washington, went to court, but a federal judge ruled last week that removing most grants and most staff would be legal.

The president of the Inter-American Foundation sued Monday to block her firing in February by the Trump administration. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/14509207

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...JgMab0v%2Fli1HMI8%3D

Fourth Circuit Temporarily Allows DOGE to Continue Dismantling USAID

The new ruling came a week after a federal district judge blocked the Trump administration’s efforts to dismantle USAID.

A federal appeals court on March 25 temporarily put a lower court order on hold that blocked Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)-led efforts at downsizing the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit issued a brief, unsigned order that the preliminary injunction issued March 18 by Maryland-based U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang “hereby is stayed until the close of business of Thursday, March 27, 2025.”
No reasoning for the decision was provided in the order.

On Feb. 4, in response to a reporter’s question if President Donald Trump planned to “wind down” USAID, the president said “I think so.”

DOGE leader Elon Musk has “done a great job. Look at all the fraud that he’s found in this USAID ... radical left lunatics,” Trump said.
Judge Chuang’s injunction contained a finding that actions by Musk and the DOGE team to dismantle USAID, which provides humanitarian aid, probably violated the U.S. Constitution.

Shutting down the USAID headquarters, laying off most of the agency’s workforce, and ending the bulk of USAID’s contracts violate the constitutional doctrine of separation of powers, Chuang wrote in the March 18 order.
The Trump administration had argued that Article II of the Constitution, which lays out the powers of the executive branch, allows the president to downsize the agency as part of his authority to manage the nation’s foreign relations.

Chuang rejected that argument, writing that the president’s actions here “relate largely to the structure of and resources made available to a federal agency, not to the direct conduct of foreign policy or engagement with foreign governments.”
The actions by Musk and DOGE “harmed … the public interest, because they deprived the public’s elected representatives in Congress of their constitutional authority to decide whether, when, and how to close down an agency created by Congress.”

The judge directed Musk and DOGE to reinstate access for USAID workers and contractors to USAID systems and ordered them not to take further action regarding terminating contracts or agency workers’ employment.

The Fourth Circuit’s new order came after the U.S. Department of Justice filed an emergency application on March 21 seeking an administrative stay pending an appeal of Chuang’s order.

The application said the injunction should be stayed because Chuang was wrong to determine that Musk “is likely an officer” of the United States whose appointment must be confirmed by the Senate.

Musk “is not an officer because he does not exercise ‘significant authority pursuant to the laws of the United States,” the document stated, citing the 1991 Supreme Court ruling in Freytag v. Commissioner.

Musk occupies a “purely advisory role [that] falls short of anything that has been recognized as ‘significant authority’ for officer status.”

He cannot make “final decisions that bind the Executive Branch,” and he cannot “make policy” on its behalf, the application said.

On March 5, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration must follow through with the payment of $2 billion in foreign aid.
The nation’s highest court left intact a temporary restraining order issued on Feb. 26 by U.S. District Judge Amir Ali of the District of Columbia that compelled USAID and the Department of State to restore funding for contracts that predated Jan. 20—the date of Trump’s inauguration—but were frozen by the Trump administration.

The Supreme Court directed Ali to “clarify what obligations the Government must fulfill to ensure compliance with the temporary restraining order, with due regard for the feasibility of any compliance timelines.”

On Jan. 20, Trump issued Executive Order 14169 ordering a “90-day pause in United States foreign development assistance for assessment of programmatic efficiencies and consistency with United States foreign policy.”
DOGE began operating on the first day of Trump’s second term. The organization recommends cost-cutting measures which the Trump administration may choose to carry out.

Trump issued Executive Order 14158 on Jan. 20, implementing DOGE. The order reorganized the U.S. Digital Service—which President Barack Obama created in 2014 within the Executive Office of the President—as the U.S. DOGE Service, according to a Congressional Research Service report.

The executive order directed the entity to “implement the President’s DOGE Agenda, by modernizing Federal technology and software to maximize governmental efficiency and productivity.”

^^^ Haha!