SIGforum
Thinking on setting up a NAS. Do I really need NAS drives?

This topic can be found at:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/5120030484

August 11, 2021, 07:52 AM
sigcrazy7
Thinking on setting up a NAS. Do I really need NAS drives?
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
Synology owners, this came out yesterday. https://www.bleepingcomputer.c...ces-with-ransomware/


That’s good to know. My devices use a 28 character password along with 2FA using Google authentication. It’s probably the users with “Admin” for a password that are being hacked. There’s not enough computing power in the world to go through 28 digits, and you only get ten tries every five minutes. Wink



Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus
August 11, 2021, 08:01 AM
truckola
These guys do a report every quarter, gives you an idea of which manufacturers have th best track record.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog...e-stats-for-q2-2021/
August 11, 2021, 08:06 AM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
I don’t know if the garage is considered off-site but I’ll start there. Big Grin


I run one backup server at work in a different room from the production server, and another backup NAS at my house to provide the offsite backup. It’s locked down tight with only the backup app able to access it.

Do you know somebody that would host the server for you? I’ve heard of people that will place their backup server at a friend or relative’s house, and then do the same for that friend or relative. Each hosting each other’s backup server. Obviously it needs to be with somebody you trust.



Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus
August 11, 2021, 09:45 AM
smschulz
Also targeting QNAP NAS as well >https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/qnap-warns-users-to-secure-nas-devices-against-dovecat-malware/

I would expect virtually every IoT device in the future including Smart TV's to get more of this too if they haven't already.

Social Engineering, Bots and Script Kiddies with nothing to do.

I can remember back in the early days of the internet when firewalls weren't even a random thought.
I could allegedly hack another computer on the network as everyone was on the same network and scan (actually guess) another IP and try to connect to the computer. It wasn't hard - allegedly. Eek
August 11, 2021, 04:28 PM
sigcrazy7
From the bleepingcomputer.com article:
quote:
"Devices infected may carry out additional attacks on other Linux based devices, including Synology NAS."

Probably every Linux-based device is vulnerable, which is a ton of stuff.

quote:
I could allegedly hack another computer on the network as everyone was on the same network and scan (actually guess) another IP and try to connect to the computer. It wasn't hard - allegedly.

Allegedly. Right. Big Grin

The good old days, when you finally got an IPX network working and your biggest security worry was that your buddy would sneak a mage close enough to cast blizzard on your farms and peons. I kinda miss the early 90's computer scene. Smile



Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus
August 11, 2021, 04:44 PM
smschulz
quote:
The good old days, when you finally got an IPX network working and your biggest security worry was that your buddy would sneak a mage close enough to cast blizzard on your farms and peons. I kinda miss the early 90's computer scene.


One of my first network jobs was to troubleshoot a Novell IPX/SPX network cabled with 10 base 2 (coax). Eek
I ripped it all out for Ethernet TCP/IP ...fast ....really fast. Smile
August 12, 2021, 09:34 AM
PakRatJR
Thanks for all the replies Cool
I decided on the Red pros. Actually ended up going with two 8tb drives instead of the 6tb I had planned originally. Two drives and the enclosure at a little over $800 total Eek On the plus side at least I have 12 month no interest lol Big Grin
August 12, 2021, 10:39 AM
smschulz
The Red Pros will work well.

I have them on my own QNAP NAS (5x4TB).
I am however trying to go all SSD in most future installations.

If you think that large SSD's are expensive they are and if they are data grade SSD's then it gets worse.
With all the Apocalyptical shortages and Intel selling their SSD business to SK Hynix the only real choice for me are Samsung Enterprise SSD's.
And these are SATA III drives as well.
I recently built a small file server for a client with some 4TB drives and found a good price at just under $600 a piece ~ now they are $800 ~ $1K Eek

Unfortunately NVMe drives in a storage array aren't possible without very expensive (very) cards.
It is also unfortunate that while you pick up the access speed (with SSD) increase over rotational drives you don't get the throughput of the NVMe drives.

Never mind as I digress ~ those Red Pros are decent drives. Cool