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“San Francisco, Cleveland and Portland have the most deserted downtowns in the US as soaring crime rates in the Democratic cities scare away workers and tourists.

In a recent study by the Institute of Governmental Studies at the University of California Berkeley, San Francisco's downtown area was found to be only 31 percent active over the spring of 2022 when compared to pre-pandemic levels, with Cleveland at 36 percent and Portland at 41 percent.

Meanwhile, cities like Salt Lake City, Utah, Bakersfield, California and Columbus Ohio are enjoying the fastest comeback, seeing their downtown activity go up by more than 110 percent since 2019.
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DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/11126101



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People tend to avoid unsafe places, who'd have thunk?


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I read that article this morning. I'm shocked to see the shithole cities suffering. Shocked.

We just spent a week in Salt Lake. Everything was crazy busy. Try and get through Costco. Our son lives there and we have visited a couple times a year for 20 years. The area has grown and prospered over those years. Nice area.



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I have traveled to San Francisco a few times this year for business, and it is ALWAYS depressing, horrible, and just downright disgusting each time. Especially coming from a normal functioning area where I live. The foot traffic in Union Square, North Beach, has greatly diminished, even on Friday nights. Market Street mostly populated by bums/street people. The Financial District a ghost town. A large amount of vacant storefronts and buildings; just a block up Powell St from the cablecar turnaround, the entire block vacant. Many restaurants closed, including the Cliff House, Alfreds Steakhouse, Farrallon, Specialtys (one of the most popular lunch crowd places), Tom Kiang, Lefty O'Douls, etc.

The convention business is essentially gone. There is some scattered business, but a tiny fraction of what it was 5-10 years ago.

And a large percentage of people walking around outside still wearing masks when I was last there in June, it really boggles the mind.

It really, with no exaggeration, really feels like stepping into a 3rd world shithole, literally.



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Man, I haven't been to San Francisco in years. We'll be spending time again in northern Cal with grandkids there; thanks for the warning about SF.


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I used to travel there for over 30 years… No more. Used to be a great eating city and fun to walk around at all times. AMF





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I have been watching YouTube videos where people travel to states to see what has happened to states that have relaxed the laws or just do not enforce them.
In the videos they visit city's like San Fransisco,Seattle, Los Angeles, Holy shit what a mess. I can see why people are leaving these states in droves and no one want to visit them anymore.

I watched a video last night where people are living under Las Vegas in sewers and flood water tunnels. They have created in some cases a small apartment for them self's to live in.
Most are there because of drugs,mental illness or just cant afford a place to live.
It is very sad for all involved.




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We went to San Francisco in 1997 on a spring school vacation. We stayed two nights and did all the touristy things. Thought it was quite nice. Spent the rest of the week driving around from Yosemite to Tahoe to Napa before flying home.

I never have to ever go there again. I might enter the state from Reno to ski at the Tahoe areas or Mammoth but never another Kali city.


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Louisville pretty much qualifies as a shithole - I'm offended we were omitted.


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Louisville pretty much qualifies as a shithole - I'm offended we were omitted.



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Downtown Cleveland is now part of my sales territory, my first time going into Cleveland for things other than entertainment. Fortunately my company doesn’t have a written policy against carrying.
 
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Louisville's City Council and "Bike Lane" mayor are totally to blame, but fear not; Lexington's politicians are pursuing the same policies. I fled SF in '93 because I could see what was coming, and four years ago left Lexington for many of the same reasons. I'm running out of places to move to.
 
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Louisville's City Council and "Bike Lane" mayor are totally to blame, but fear not; Lexington's politicians are pursuing the same policies. I fled SF in '93 because I could see what was coming, and four years ago left Lexington for many of the same reasons. I'm running out of places to move to.


Really that’s every city in the Commonwealth. Here they are taking functioning 4 lane city roads and making them 3 lane with bike lanes. It’s mainly an avenue for the occasional DUI suspended to make it to buy booze on a bike. They also love projects like the “transient boat pier” on the river. We spent 20 million on a boat pier that was supposed to bring in billions in revenue for boaters coming to the city on the river. It’s hardly used 4 years later. Now they want to build a sports center and aquatic center that we are going to make billions off of.

But yet, we’ve heard all this before, the current sports complex’s are free and we make no money off of them. Supposedly some how the new sports complex is going to take us in billions. Oh, they are also anti-Second Amendment and won’t include shooting sports in their complex.




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Originally posted by Fredward:
Louisville's City Council and "Bike Lane" mayor are totally to blame, but fear not; Lexington's politicians are pursuing the same policies. I fled SF in '93 because I could see what was coming, and four years ago left Lexington for many of the same reasons. I'm running out of places to move to.


Really that’s every city in the Commonwealth. Here they are taking functioning 4 lane city roads and making them 3 lane with bike lanes. It’s mainly an avenue for the occasional DUI suspended to make it to buy booze on a bike. They also love projects like the “transient boat pier” on the river. We spent 20 million on a boat pier that was supposed to bring in billions in revenue for boaters coming to the city on the river. It’s hardly used 4 years later. Now they want to build a sports center and aquatic center that we are going to make billions off of.

But yet, we’ve heard all this before, the current sports complex’s are free and we make no money off of them. Supposedly some how the new sports complex is going to take us in billions. Oh, they are also anti-Second Amendment and won’t include shooting sports in their complex.


I live here too. The only way it will ever change is to vote AGAINST ever single DemonCrap that is running for any office.

The WORST THING that ever happened to Metro Louisville/Jefferson County was to merge government back in the early 2000s, so that Jerry “Mayor-for-Life” Abrams could have a grift-graft job. I seldom go inside of the Watterson Expressway as it has become totally UNSAFE. Murders and killings are going to reach 200 this year.


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I grew up in San Francisco. I used to hang out around Market and Powell to people watch. Had my favorite 49 mile scenic drive route I would take from time to time. I would go to downtown at night and cruise. I had a favorite route to bicycle through Golden Gate Park then go along 19th avenue then coast down the slight incline all the way down to the beach before they put up stop signs.

Once I moved out, there wasn't much reason to go back except to visit relatives occasionally like Christmas, Thanksgiving, and life events.

You can never go back home.



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I go to downtown San Francisco at times with work. In the old days I’d go out for food or a few drinks. Now I go to the grocery store, do a daylight walk, that’s it.

I’m not even spending $14 at Chipotle.
 
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DailyMail unabashedly calls a spade a spade

It's not a "mainstream" publication... which somehow enables it to tell the truth.

Democrat cities have the perfect recipe for turning world-class cities into shit holes.

Here in St. Louis, they've been doing it for 72 years now. During that time, the population of the City of St. Louis has gone from nearly 1 million residents to under a third of that.

Look at this graph:


What happened around 1950 to cause the population to begin a rapid decline?
Two things: The enactment of a City earnings tax followed by the exodus of Republicans to the suburbs. We have not had a Republican mayor since 1950. It turns out, the City earnings tax is optional and can be avoided by simply leaving the City.



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I live just over an hour from SF... pretty much for all my life. As a young child my maternal grandfather lived there and we would go visit a few times a year, sometimes go check out Pier 39 and various other destinations. It was always nice. Been there a few times as an adult and it was still a nice play for a day trip to spend some time and get out of the heat. We enjoyed taking BART into the city, and once or twice catching the ferry from Oakland.

Last time we were there was about 6 years ago when my oldest was 4 or so and my middle child was just a baby. We ferried in with the kids, rode around the city on top of a double-decker, including across the Golden Gate, which we had never done before. One of my favorite pictures with my daughter is fighting the wind as we crossed the GG. Honestly, it was great day trip and it will never be repeated. I see no reason to ever step foot into that city again. I'm glad I get to remember it on a high note.

 
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Originally posted by oddball:
I have traveled to San Francisco a few times this year for business, and it is ALWAYS depressing, horrible, and just downright disgusting each time. Especially coming from a normal functioning area where I live. The foot traffic in Union Square, North Beach, has greatly diminished, even on Friday nights. Market Street mostly populated by bums/street people. The Financial District a ghost town. A large amount of vacant storefronts and buildings; just a block up Powell St from the cablecar turnaround, the entire block vacant. Many restaurants closed, including the Cliff House, Alfreds Steakhouse, Farrallon, Specialtys (one of the most popular lunch crowd places), Tom Kiang, Lefty O'Douls, etc.

The convention business is essentially gone. There is some scattered business, but a tiny fraction of what it was 5-10 years ago.

And a large percentage of people walking around outside still wearing masks when I was last there in June, it really boggles the mind.

It really, with no exaggeration, really feels like stepping into a 3rd world shithole, literally.

I spent a week in the Financial District on a business trip a long time ago, it was nice. I saw the Golden Gate Bridge from my hotel room. Too bad to hear about it now. Democrats are stupid mental.




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