The longer this goes on, the more I’m convinced this bitch is the left’s lightning rod in seeing just how far they can go to completely ignore the constitution. Where are the impeachment proceedings we keep threatening? Why hasn’t the state police told the scunt that her actions are unconstitutional and ignore them as literally the rest of the law enforcement community is doing? This is a test; we need to bury her sooner than later.
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September 15, 2023, 08:10 AM
parabellum
Oh, for fuck's sake.
She's being assailed from every direction, including her own party and her own administration. A federal judge has blocked her action until it's examined, and the judge was not gentle about it when he did it. She's now facing multiple lawsuits, there are calls to impeach her, Republican congressmen are seeking to condemn her, the sheriff of the county has flatly stated he won't enforce the law, her AG has said he won't support her actions and citizens are brazenly defying her order and daring her to have them arrested.
As a result, she is isolated in her efforts and looks like a Constitution-defying clown who has violated her oath of office, which actually illustrates the need for the Second Amendment. All this attention on the subject has managed to enlighten and educate more than a few people, but yeah, let's just keep saying that this is a "test" because that makes so much fucking sense. There's so much evidence to support this complete guess, it's just gotta be a test. Yep.
Just because her actions are perfectly typical of irrational, emotion-drive knee-jerk leftists doing it "for the children"- that means nothing. It couldn't be that, while calling it a "test" makes you look so much more wise than those around you, not to mention, it's really fucking cool to make claims which bear no evidence at all.
September 15, 2023, 09:47 AM
Fly-Sig
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
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Originally posted by Fly-Sig: NRA are the 800 lb gorilla when it comes to lobbying ...
I don't disagree on your numbers or even NRA's lethargy. The NRA is the most well known organization amongst the general population, and the constant punching bag of the anti-civil rights leftists. The NRA serves the important function of being the face of or the symbol of law abiding gun owners in the public arena. They get the media coverage, they take the incoming fire. They open the field for other pro-rights groups to operate.
I've never heard anyone outside of the gun owner community mention any organization other than the NRA.
Thus just having the NRA mentioned as being involved will turn heads because of the perception they represent many millions of gun owning voters. No other group has that influence yet.
September 15, 2023, 09:52 AM
nhracecraft
The NRA isn't taking incoming fire on ANYTHING except that resulting from the growing dissatisfaction of the membership! Overwhelmingly, recent history indicates that the NRA is nothing but a bumper sticker and fund raising campaign!
The NRA is guilty of being AWOL, and it's conduct (or lack thereof) borders on Desertion...This during the most crucial time in recent memory! If not now, when...
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September 15, 2023, 09:57 AM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by Flashlightboy: From the Tweets I read from people in the courtroom, the judge was pissed at the governor's arguments. They were nonsense and when the admission came that the gun carrying members of the public weren't the problem, the judge was done.
The judge wasn't swayed with anything the state had to say.
That admission clearly and unequivocally determined the regulation was not proper under test the Supreme Court set out for looking at gun restrictions.
It is like claiming you weren't speeding, and then admitting you were driving 100 in a school zone. Case over.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
September 15, 2023, 09:59 AM
jhe888
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Originally posted by HRK:
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Newsom, Pritzker, and the governors of other liberal states aren't coming out against her and I'm convinced they are privately hoping she wins.
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I'm still not convinced she came up with this on her own, as some last minute epiphany on how to curtail gun use by using her powers to restrict carry in an emergency.
Maybe she did, perhaps the shooting upset her and she just decided to act on her own to see what sticks. The DA's letter seems to substantiate that there wasn't a conversation regarding it's legality between her office and his... The potential downside on this is huge for gun rights over her actions, and if she prevails, well she's now on the national forefront of D politics.
Most likely this has been a discussion point at round tables between anti gun groups, their legal teams and left wing D politicians who embrace an anti gun agenda, and that's where the idea formulated
As far as Newsom Pritzker et al, they probably have better legal advice telling them the upside and down of doing this, and that a federal case could likely strike down some parts or possibly all state level carry laws making every state a constitutional carry state, that the risk wasn't worth it.
In that aspect if she acted on her own without consulting legal advice, she's incompetent, and should be impeached and taken out of office.
Some lefties have been kicking around this "health emergency" justification for a while. I guess they learned where that is likely to go.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
September 15, 2023, 10:06 AM
Ryanp225
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Originally posted by Greymann:
Also the governor wants the waste water from the schools tested for drugs. I wonder if drugs are in the sewage are the drugs from students or teachers or janitor.
Next the governor wants the hospitals to report gunshot victims to the dept.of health. Including caliber, make and model of weapon, race and age of victims and why the shooting occurred. I thought law enforcement was already notified.
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September 15, 2023, 10:29 AM
smschulz
Pretty funny:
September 15, 2023, 10:39 AM
Ryanp225
I love the Rage-aholic.
September 15, 2023, 10:54 AM
erj_pilot
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Originally posted by smschulz: Pretty funny:
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I'd say Razorfist needs to switch to DECAF, but damn...I laugh so friggin' hard when he gets on his rants!
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
September 15, 2023, 11:57 AM
Fly-Sig
There's a theory that the Governor is posturing for a cabinet position in the next administration. She is term limited and has nowhere to go right now, so she is doing this for the publicity. She has misjudged badly.
September 15, 2023, 12:00 PM
6guns
^^^ Yeah, I don't think President Trump will hire her.
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September 15, 2023, 12:01 PM
erj_pilot
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
September 15, 2023, 12:02 PM
HRK
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Originally posted by 6guns: ^^^ Yeah, I don't think President Trump will hire her.
Booom shackalacka!
September 15, 2023, 03:33 PM
sigfreund
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Originally posted by smschulz: Pretty funny: (re The Rageaholic)
And not only funny: “The Second Amendment is not where most of your gun rights come from”—preach it, Brother; that’s exactly what I’ve been saying for years.
But although he is right that the legal challenge to the insane order would have been better based on the New Mexico constitution, there is a more fundamental reason as well and why our gun rights are not grounded in the US Constitution.
As a very distant relative of my wife put it, “The right of self defence is the first law of nature” (St. George Tucker, 1803), or as it’s stated in the Declaration of Independence, we have an inalienable right to life—and that simply means we have the right to defend our lives.
Without having the right to keep and bear the effective means of self-defense, and for the vast majority of people that means guns and only guns, then there is no effective right to self-defense. That’s what every gun owner should recognize and point out whenever our rights are under attack.
"That ban, the Governor says, will now only apply to open and concealed firearm carrying in “public parks and playgrounds.”
Bullshit!
September 15, 2023, 05:43 PM
12131
Trying to save whatever little that's left of her face. There's a public health emergency in public parks and playgrounds. Lol. Just admit that you fucked up and move on, already.
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September 15, 2023, 06:50 PM
Flashlightboy
She's off her rocker she ought to know better.
The shooting and death of the child that led to the first ban was road rage based. and over the past couple of days, other shootings that she's trying to address via this ban, actually happened in intersections but not in parks or playgrounds. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
She's now going to have to backtrack on her first ban's factual basis and replace it was parks and playgrounds but has no data to back that up and she's also faced with the immutable fact that law abiding CCW holders haven't ever been the problem.