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It drives me crazy, recently was watching a Candice Owen video on Putin. She does not pronounce her T’s most of the time. She calls him Poo-in. She does the same with other words like certain, she says sir-in. I have heard other young people do this too. What is up with this? Is this how they were taught in school or just ignorance our our language? Honestly I would be embarrassed to speak like that in front of millions of people.

What say you? Does this annoy anyone else?
 
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My granddaughter does this.




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It's referred to as glottal stop and is more common in British English. Not sure why young Americans are picking it up. I don't like it.
 
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I do not like it either, but. I live west of Philadelphia and I am beginning to hear it among my educated friends, and suspect I am slipping into the habit too. I believe it is just the evolution of the language, the streamlining of speech. Note we have other silent consonants too, the P as the first letter of a word and others. The French generally do not sound the 's' when the last letter of a word and the 'e' as the last letter unless accompanied by an acute accent.
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The hard "t" is another victim of globalization.
 
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It’s an accent.
 
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I pronounce them the way she does. Maybe I grew up in a different part of the country.





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I find it odd also. A 30ish former coworker speaks in this manner. She is intelligent and educated; she has a doctorate, as do both of her parents.

I am no Speech Nazi, but am amazed at what comes out of the "Professionals" on our local TV news. A story last night involved an arrest of an individual with a IV suffix to his surname, which the broadcaster referred to as the 14th. A couple years ago a newscaster made mention of a "gubernational" election.
 
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I love "ax" as opposed to "ask" ignorance.
 
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Look no further than KTVU broadcasting the KAL crash at SFO. How dumb do you have to be to just read "holy fuck" and not see an issue?

I don't think it is an accent or a regional thing. I think it is just an other degradation of the language. Just like poor spelling, mispronunciation, made up words, and general poor vocabulary has become accepted as the norm with all the appropriate excuses as to why it is perfectly acceptable.

My personal opinion is that it makes you sound dumb. Same as if you mispronounce a word or use a word incorrectly. It certainly doesn't make you sound smarter. Just my opinion.
 
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It’s an accent.

"Yoots" (from My Cousin Vinnie) is an accent. It's not an accent. It's not exclusive to one area of the country either. I've heard young people in Texas talking like this too. It seems to be imitated, I'm not up on the latest culture for our youth, thought maybe there's a singer or someone talking like this influencing the youth.
 
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It is the natural evolution of language. You do not speak like your ancestors, and your descendants will not speak like you. Certain sounds are particularly prone to omission. Guttural “T” is one, alone with leading “H.” I’d bet you say “erbs and spices” in lieu of “herbs and spices.” You also probably say “The cock crowed” instead of “The cock crew.” Language evolves.

How many here naturally use the past simple “was” when referring to the conditional? You probably don’t even bat an eye when you hear somebody say “If I was the President, we’d have National reciprocity.” That usage is so common and accepted that it is hardly noticed as poor grammar. It is a shift happening simply because “was” is a more simple sound to create than “were.” As an added bonus, auto correct doesn’t molest “was” like it does “were.” Smile

Languages shift, and that is very natural. It is the reason why the plural of “foot” is “feet” instead of “foots,” and the reason why “like” will someday mean “said,” with nobody knowing that it began with some teenagers in Pasadena.



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They sometimes have trouble with th too. Some can’t conjugate the verb to be. Most are unfamiliar with the subjunctive tense. And nearly all misuse who/whom.

I’ve come to accept that in modern communication there is a difference between the spoken word and the written word. If one speaks properly as language is written/printed, he sounds Shakespearean.



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It is a classic,just not in Boston

 
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It is the natural evolution of language.

While languages do "evolve", this is not that. It is ghetto speak and laziness indicative of our current culture. Add it to the list.

Glottal stop, vocal fry (now being exhibited by young males as well Roll Eyes), responding with "I know...right?" whenever someone makes a point, etc.... It is all fingernails on a chalkboard to me and I won't tolerate it. No sir.



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There was a recent thread here in The Lounge about a new-speak trend among young folks. I can’t remember its name though. The omitted “t” might be part of it. The trend was rather like “valley girl” speak.

ETA – I was thinking “Vocal Fry”, but that’s not it.

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Well, in America they haven't used it for years:

https://youtu.be/EAYUuspQ6BY?si=AhYc8JidlATzsg7M&t=68


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It seems to also be d's, and seems to be regional as well.
I really notice it when my wife watches House Hunters. I hear 'behroom' for bedroom often on that show.



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I'm in the "it's an affectation" camp. Annoying.




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