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I'm ashamed of my states government..California now a Sanctuary State.
October 06, 2017, 10:29 AM
oddballI'm ashamed of my states government..California now a Sanctuary State.
quote:
Originally posted by konata88:
Please, oh very please, let this be the turning point for conservatives to turn this state red again.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but this will not happen. CA will NEVER be the state of Reagan again. The fix is in, the game is rigged. Hillary votes in CA outnumbered Trump's by a huge 2:1 margin, I don't think any other state comes close. CA was and will continue to be the destination state for leftists in this country and now the #1 destination for illegal Mexicans. The San Francisco political machine has completely taken over Sacramento, and will continue for years to come. Jerry Brown finishes his term next year, and Gavin Newsom
will become the next governor, who is more of a commie.
If you thought Moonbeam was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
October 06, 2017, 10:30 AM
grecoYep, like mentioned above. As soon as fed funds end the SHTF. If the govt goes soft and continues to fund this bullshit we have bigger problems. The country already can't afford this crap. Commifornia is already in heavy debt. Do they expect you and me to pay? Not if I can help it. We will have to start booting out these a$$hats. Of course we have done such a fine job of that so far.
Never be more than one step away from your sword-Old Greek Wisdom October 06, 2017, 01:32 PM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by oddball:
Starts January, 2018.
Perfect timing; my wife and I are out that month.
Congratulations. Our current plans are to follow your exodus before May of next year.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 October 06, 2017, 01:44 PM
ShifferbrainsJerry Brown was fully retarded before signing this shit. This state sucks so much ass, I can't wait to leave.
We're going to do what oddball is doing, either northern Texas or Oklahoma. Our goal is to make it four more years, earliest I can retire.
October 06, 2017, 02:33 PM
ScoutmasterWhat could possibly go wrong in CA?
- They openly welcome and protect those who have a tendency to break the laws.
- They subsidize such law breakers, who, on the whole, consume more than they produce, becoming an economic burden on society. This segment is growing.
- Their rich elitists (including many politicians and bureaucrats) openly promote socialism for masses, but they practice capitalism for themselves. They are very generous with other's money.
- Politicians compensate public employees (including themselves) quite highly, from public coffers. At expected rates of return on the pension funds, CA has a pension shortfall (unfunded liability) of about $1 Trillion. There are three solutions: Pay employees $1T less than promised, raise taxes $1T, or kick the can down the road until it blows up.
So what could possibly go wrong, other than in a few years down the road CA could mimic Venezuela.

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 October 06, 2017, 02:50 PM
CromThe only recourse would seem to be withdrawing Federal funds.
Isn't that what liberals do whenever a State tries to defy Federal laws or regulations ?
What prevents that ?
"Crom is strong! If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, 'What is the riddle of steel?' If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me."
October 06, 2017, 04:19 PM
chuck416Moonbeam went Full Retard.
October 06, 2017, 04:24 PM
olfuzzyquote:
Originally posted by chuck416:
Moonbeam went Full Retard.
He's on a roll.
California can now start jailing people that refuse to use the preferred gender pronouns of nursing home residents after Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown signed the bill Thursday.
The law’s effect is limited to nursing homes and other long-term care facilities, but mandates that those who “willfully and repeatedly” refuse “to use a transgender resident’s preferred name or pronouns” can be slapped with a $1,000 fine and up to one year in prison, according to the California Heath and Safety code.
Known as the “LGBT Senior Bill Of Rights,” the legislation also requires nursing homes and care facilities to allow residents to use the bathroom of their choice, regardless of biological sex. The bill’s author, state Sen. Scott Weiner, argues that religious views don’t hold weight in public areas.
“Everyone is entitled to their religious view,” Wiener said. “But when you enter the public space, when you are running an institution, you are in a workplace, you are in a civil setting, and you have to follow the law.”
Wiener also released a statement thanking Brown for signing the bill.
“Our LGBT seniors built the modern LGBT community and led the fight for so many of the rights our community takes for granted today. It is our duty to make sure they can age with the dignity and respect they deserve,” Wiener wrote. “I want to thank Governor Brown for joining our coalition in supporting this bill, which will make a real difference in people’s lives. The LGBT Senior Bill of Rights is an important step in our fight to ensure all people are treated equally regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10...ing-gender-pronouns/October 06, 2017, 08:15 PM
urbanwarrior238An article I read about this Sanctuary state CRAP said California currently has an estimated 2.3 MILLION illegal aliens. Now that it is sanctuary, MORE will come to be safe. Unfucking believable.
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October 06, 2017, 08:18 PM
12131Kali is a lost cause,...long ago.
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October 07, 2017, 02:56 AM
rsd1220Next, the commie jackholes will pass a law stating ICE agents are banned in the shithole state.
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October 07, 2017, 08:11 AM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by Crom:
The only recourse would seem to be withdrawing Federal funds.
Isn't that what liberals do whenever a State tries to defy Federal laws or regulations ?
What prevents that ?
It is a recourse, but not the only one. For example, the feds can get an injunction in fed court to its implementation and if necessary fight Commiefornia all the way to SCOTUS
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity
DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. October 07, 2017, 09:59 AM
dewhorsequote:
Originally posted by konata88:
Please, oh very please let this turn out very quickly and very badly for the liberals here in LA and SF.
Please, make this erode housing prices. Please make this bad for Stanford and Berkeley so that professors leave and enrollment drops. Please have these entitled liberal high tech companies move en masse elsewhere.
Please, oh very please, let this be the turning point for conservatives to turn this state red again.
If anything good is to come of this, please make this so.
God I hope not, Texas has too many already.....we just need to move the wall north.
Let CA turn into a commie ghetto.....a shining beacon on the hill for these red shits, maybe some will move back.
Sorry CA, unless something literally earth shattering happens, is lost......
Time to put language in the 2018 budget so we can cut off fed funding....
October 07, 2017, 10:08 AM
blueyeCan the governor give them voting rights also?
October 07, 2017, 10:48 AM
oddballquote:
Originally posted by blueye:
Can the governor give them voting rights also?
IMO, it has already happened.
Moonbeam signed a bill (AB60) several years ago to give illegals the ability to get a CA drivers license, already close to a million got 'em. Also feds can access driver's license info, but not immigration status or if they received one thru this bill.
Jerry also signed a "motor voter" law" last year that automatically registers licensed drivers to vote.
The above is more than ample proof that illegal immigration is a power grab to insure Democrats keep CA for good.
Moonbeam, the guy that keeps giving.
...but the next guy will be worse.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
October 07, 2017, 11:01 AM
urbanwarrior238The theory behind giving them a drivers license was that they would then get auto insurance. It DID NOT happen. Hit and run crashes and un-insured drivers is rampant.
Now they can live in California in 'sanctuary' and not pay taxes, free health care, free schooling, etc., etc. This state has gone to hell.
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October 07, 2017, 11:22 AM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by urbanwarrior238:
The theory behind giving them a drivers license was that they would then get auto insurance. It DID NOT happen. Hit and run crashes and un-insured drivers is rampant.
Now they can live in California in 'sanctuary' and not pay taxes, free health care, free schooling, etc., etc. This state has gone to hell.
Not pay taxes, not obey traffic laws, get free health and schooling, subsidized housing and living expenses, all while denouncing America as oppressive and celebrating their homeland. And Moonbeam believes such is "enlightened".

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 October 07, 2017, 11:32 AM
chellim1quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Kali is a lost cause,...long ago.
Yes... but the key is to not let the cancer spread to the remaining 49 states.
There's a Calexit thread somewhere with some thoughts and ideas on that....
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...35/m/8870047314/p/20
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-rduckwor October 07, 2017, 01:51 PM
AckksCould you imagine the response if liberals somehow got another ban passed and Texas passed a sanctuary state law for the Second Amendment?
October 07, 2017, 02:04 PM
mr kablammoquote:
Originally posted by Ackks:
Could you imagine the response if liberals somehow got another ban passed and Texas passed a sanctuary state law for the Second Amendment?
Montana has already passed the Firearms Freedom Act.
http://firearmsfreedomact.com/As for CA, the state govt facillitating the unarmed invasion of the USA is contemptable and actionable.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre.