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Alright, folks, it’s Karma time, and boy, do I have a treasure up for grabs.
Presenting… a very well-used, highly seasoned Monadnock PR-24 S Baton, still kicking after 30 years of service in the capable (albeit now infamous) hands of a former Irvington NJ Township cop. This baton has seen some things – and it’s ready to see a little more, hopefully in the hands of someone who’ll appreciate it.

A little backstory: this beauty was gifted to me by a former friend who, as it turns out, is now a former friend for a reason. He’s earned a special place in my memories as a Grade-A shitgibbon, a true fuckmuppet. I’ve decided it’s time to pass this piece of law enforcement history onto someone else.

He swore by it and claimed it was incredibly effective when used with "strategic persuasion." Apparently, a strike to the heel, right below the Achilles or along the side between the ankle and the bottom of the foot (sole of shoe), induces instant compliance due to its eye-watering ability to make someone reconsider their life choices. And hey, if you've ever wanted a “heel beater”, here’s your shot!

A few details for the interested:
It’s got his badge number (#198) engraved, adding that personal flair.
It’s broken in, tried and tested, with plenty of “character.”

Entry Requirements:
***Tell a story of how it’ll be used or how you would have used it in a past experience. Creative (more so humorous) storytelling is appreciated and will be considered in the drawing. In other words, “I’m in” is probably not going to win this.
* Email must be in your profile. I’m not going on a goose chase to contact you.
* Registered before October 7, 2024.
* More than 500 posts.
* Unfortunately, if you live in a no-baton state (looking at you, CA, CT, HI, IL, NV, NJ, NY, OK, RI, TN), this one’s not for you, please sit this one out. If I missed a restricted state, let me know!
* Please don’t sign up if you know it’s illegal to own in your state, county, parish, city – we don’t want to make friends with the local police or the feds over this.
* For our law enforcement members in restricted states who are allowed to possess batons, feel free to enter! Just make sure you mention it so there’s no confusion. (I will ship this to the police department that employs you).

So if you’re looking for a seasoned baton with a bit of backstory – or just a unique addition to your collection – throw your hat in the ring. Good luck!

I’ll pick a winner in a week or so.

Please don’t count me in, but happy belated 50th!

Happy 50th. Also, please count me out. The dreaded #1 and 2 spots are taken.

Happy 50th, Beancooker! But also, please count me out.

Happy 50th, but please don’t include me. I'd only hurt myself with it.

Thanks for the birthday wishes… but I really figured there would be some people that wanted this, or at the least get us some interesting stories to hear.

I would love a shot at that, but sadly we're prohibited by policy from carrying a PR-24 on duty. Smacking somebody with a straight stick = ok. Stick with a side handle = not ok. Yeah, I don't see the logic either.

Honestly, I don't even carry a collapsible these days as they're not super effective and policy is just too restrictive as to how we can employ it. I did have a use of force instructor one time from Massachusetts who told us that back in his day they'd regularly get dispatched to "riots" or bar fights and they'd roll up in a big group and go around "like fairy godmothers" bopping people on the forehead. He said you could always tell from the booking photos who had been arrested by their department because of the black eyes and lumps on their heads. If you did that stuff today you'd go to prison.

I have a couple of these and while being a bit on the clunky side for patrol, was very effective and I suspect more intimidating than a deployed expandable baton. Several years before I retired, we switched to the locking expandable from Monadnock with the large end cap for retention in sweaty or bloody encounters.

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They were a little rattley but don’t unlock like an Asp does under force. Not long before retiring we were given the option to carry the collapsible PR-24 that locked out firmly but lacked the heft of the solid original.



And of course, the aforementioned Asp friction lock became almost useless after a few training sessions on heavy bags- the camming surfaces went out of round and allowed them to loosen up and become unreliable. To me, the original solid PR-24 is a very good tool in the shed for defensive use and is why I keep one under the low sitting bed.

Not interested in the karma, but a story and a quick memory…

I was a reserve officer in a small department that was one of the last in the area to be allowed to carry hickory night sticks. We had one in the car, but I never had a need to use it. It was well used by someone many moons ago, but never by me or anyone that I knew in the department.

A story from an acquaintance of mine circa 1975. He was a beat cop in a mid size California agency back when revolvers, saps, night sticks, and leaded leather gloves were king. No use of force paperwork or policies back then. He gets a call for out of control drunken fight at a quinceanera and rolls over (no cover back then) to this party. Some loudmouth guy who was 3 sheets to the wind is fighting another guy, and when my buddy announced his arrival, the guys spins on him and squares off. My buddy takes his trusty pr24 gripping the small handle, longest part parallel tucked under his forearm and spins it out (like a sythe) right into the guys left femur shattering it instantly. Drunk bozo goes down, fight over, and gets carted off to the ER by other partygoers. My buddy didn’t even fill out paperwork for use of force, cleared the call no report, and went on with the night. 70s policing at its finest.

Happy birthday with many more to come....Thank you for the Karma but I respectfully decline the offer..... 1981/1982 I carried a PR-24 while on patrol but never had to use it for compliance but know of it happening... Seems like there was some kind of movement to make it mandatory to be certified before you would be allowed to legally carry it without getting into legal trouble if it had been used.. ...................... drill sgt.

I'm in a no side-handle baton state, but thought I'd post a picture from last night's World Series 2024 LA riot...


PR-24 by kpkina, on Flickr

Dodgers celebrations erupt into chaos as ‘hostile’ crowd hurls projectiles at officers, sets city bus ablaze

My department only used WOOD straight batons. Their was the fear of being accused in court of "beating with a pipe". We were told they were to be used for a "poke to the stomach to take the wind out of their sails". But then again we got to use WATER CANNONS to cool off the mob. The good 'ole days.

I'm not in but your whole post brought a smile to my face. We used to carry batons on shore patrol duty in Olongapo.

Yeah, I better not tell stories. But it was fun. Not that I used the baton on anyone, just the whole thing about being on shore patrol duty and the stories that go with it.

I'm IN! I have the perfect use for that attitude-straightening baton!

I live on Lake Toho in the Orlando area of FL. I walk my dogs in the evening and I put my kayak in right behind my backyard all the time.

If given this baton it will get to continue it's glory days of kicking ass with no regard. Even your ex-buddy will be proud of it's new found use.

It will be in my kayak to flip water moccasins from my rig OR bash their asses. They are fast! They swim up and in the kayak outta nowhere. It will also keep the lil' gators from pestering me when I'm trying to get in or out the kayak. Lastly, it will be ready to "persuade" my neighbors unchained Rottweiler the next time he chases my ass from the lake to my door.

This new ass-beater will also be doing some good. It will prevent me from using the P220 on any of these animals. I always have it on the hip, but will add the baton and consider it my less-lethal option in the name of Beancooker for years to come.

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It will be in my kayak to flip water moccasins from my rig OR bash their asses. They are fast! They swim up and in the kayak outta nowhere. It will also keep the lil' gators from pestering me when I'm trying to get in or out the kayak.

You sir are a braver man than me! I love a good kayak trip, but no way am I getting in the water when I know without a doubt that I'll be encountering venomous snakes and gators while I'm in there!!! I hope you win the Karma and can post some videos of yourself bopping some reptiles ...that should be fun to watch (from the safety of my couch!) !

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It will be in my kayak to flip water moccasins from my rig OR bash their asses. They are fast! They swim up and in the kayak outta nowhere. It will also keep the lil' gators from pestering me when I'm trying to get in or out the kayak.

You sir are a braver man than me! I love a good kayak trip, but no way am I getting in the water when I know without a doubt that I'll be encountering venomous snakes and gators while I'm in there!!! I hope you win the Karma and can post some videos of yourself bopping some reptiles ...that should be fun to watch (from the safety of my couch!) !

Yeah, my wife will say I've been known to tell a great "story" OR TWO LoL There may be a lil' embellishment in here. Just a lil' bit though.

Seriously, I've had 3 encounters over the last 6 years and a baton would have helped a lot. The gun was useless with the moccasin. They swim so fast and side to side. He was in the kayak before I could hardly move. Thankfully, he went straight past my leg and over the back instead of up my shorts. The gators are always there. A tap on the nose and they go about their way. I have a small emergency oar I keep on a leash for a just in case moment where I lose my paddle.

Kayaking is AWESOME in FL!

Happy Birthday!

I spent my 50th on the mat, much to my family's chagrin.
Lots of time and practice with a Tonfa (Pr-24), in fact, it's a favorite.

Please count me in.

FLKev, you were selected as the winner.

Please reply to the email I sent you with a UPS-able mailing address.

Congratulations!!!

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FLKev, you were selected as the winner.

Please reply to the email I sent you with a UPS-able mailing address.

Congratulations!!!

THANK YOU for the awesome and generous Karma. Address sent. Happy 50th and thanks again!

So I'm the last officer at my previous agency that was issued a Cocabola night stick (it still rides with me, but my current agency dunno that)

Woody and I have cleared out many a bar fight together.

One of my favorite memories was of a bar fight that inovled several members of the local college, who were in the NCAA Finals that year. One of whom was approximately 6'6" tall. I'm 5'11 in boots. While clearing out the initial fight solo, as other units were code 3 to me, I had the aforementioned member of that college team running his mouth. As a former mentor stated "either crack the biggest dude or the biggest mouth", I began to walk towards him repeating "head, shoulders, knees and toes" like the shampoo commercial.

Upon making it within 4-5 feet of him, I simply stated, "If you keep running your mouth, I'm gonna fuck up your NBA career". Mysteriously, 6 sets of hands appeared around him, and he disappeared into a group of dispersing youths.