https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...-government-n1234463

In the latest attempt to "name and shame" China’s government-sponsored cyber theft, the Justice Department announced an indictment Tuesday charging two Chinese nationals — both in China — with hacking governments, dissidents, human rights activists and private companies, including those engaged in COVID-19 vaccine research.

"The hackers stole terabytes of data which comprised a sophisticated and prolific threat to U.S. networks," a Justice Department statement said.

A grand jury indictment charged Li Xiaoyu, 34, and Dong Jiazhi, 33, with conducting a hacking campaign lasting more than 10 years targeting companies in the U.S., Australia, Belgium, Germany, Japan, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Spain, South Korea, Sweden, and the United Kingdom. Targets included high tech manufacturers, medical device makers civil and industrial engineers, gaming software makers, solar energy companies; pharmaceutical makers, and defense contractors.

Among the 13 U.S. victims were: a California tech and defense company, a Maryland tech and manufacturing company, the DOE’s Hanford site in Washington, a Texas engineering firm, a Virginia defense contractor, a Massachusetts software firm, a California gaming software company, and several U.S. drug makers.

Court documents say the hackers “researched vulnerabilities in the networks of biotech and other firms publicly known for work on COVID-19 vaccines, treatments, and testing technology, but it does not say they obtained any.

The hackers sought to extort cryptocurrency from one victim, DOJ said, by threatening to release the victim's stolen source code on the Internet. "More recently, the defendants probed for vulnerabilities in computer networks of companies developing COVID-19 vaccines, testing technology, and treatments."

The indictment said that the hackers operated both for their own profit and also for the main Chinese intelligence service, the Ministry of State Security. It says they were assisted by an unnamed Chinese intelligence officer known to the grand jury

I assume they're in China, and beyond the reach of US Justice.

We need to consider and international agreement cutting off internet access for cutting off China (and any other countries that engage in these types of activities, including Russia and NK) from internet access outside their boarders.

We need to get rid of the Chinese students here as well, 300,000 of them here.
I'd wager at least 5% or more are nothing more than spies. Time to get TOUGH with China and Russia.

Its far more than 5%. TMK, and unless things really changed, only party members/future party members are permitted over here.

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We need to consider and international agreement cutting off internet access for cutting off China (and any other countries that engage in these types of activities, including Russia and NK) from internet access outside their boarders.

The IP ranges used by Chinese and Russian ISPs are known and easily determined. This means that any organization that wants to block or null route these addresses are perfectly free to do so without getting Governments involved.

So is it more work to get millions of organizations to adjust their router configs, or a few hundred Governments to decide on a policy? Your guess is as good as mine, but I wouldn't want either job.

Either way, the most profound effect would be to enrich commercial VPN providers, not reduce abusive traffic. Remember, "the 'net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."

I think the immediate removal of ALL Chinese students is probably a prudent thing to do

I am the OP.

Let me tell you how jaded I have become.

As I watched the press conference with the speakers highly praising the DoJ National Security Division and the FBI, I couldn't stop thinking -

Is this a puff piece to polish the NSD and FBI reputation ?

Especially w all the revelations coming out of the coup attempt w the so active participation of those organizations ?

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I am the OP.

Let me tell you how jaded I have become.

As I watched the press conference with the speakers highly praising the DoJ National Security Division and the FBI, I couldn't stop thinking -

Is this a puff piece to polish the NSD and FBI reputation ?

Especially w all the revelations coming out of the coup attempt w the so active participation of those organizations ?

I'm as upset as you are regarding the FBI's coverup regarding Hillary Clinton's violations of law regarding transparency laws (through the use of a personal server), their interfere with the last election, and their participation in the attempted coup of a sitting President, using false information to obtain FISA warrants, their complicity with DOJ persecutors prosecutors to coerce a false confession from an honorably retired General (Mike Flynn), but there's thousands of ethical and hardworking agents that ARE working on behalf of the American public. It's a shame that their efforts are used to disguise the less honorable deeds committed by those who carry the same badge and ID.

I really hope the culture of the organization changes, but that will only happen when those who committed crimes for political purposes are prosecuted like any other crooked cops. I've been personally involved in an investigation that dealt with FBI malfeasance in the James "Whitey" Bulger matter since 2008. A couple of weeks ago I was interviewed regarding this issue for a podcast called "Things Police See", and you might find it interesting, especially in light of who was running the Bureau at the time- Robert Mueller. You can listen to the interview here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/...ccounts/id1384355891

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the speakers highly praising the DoJ National Security Division and the FBI,

High praise? For taking TEN YEARS to catch them and do something!

out of all the no-brainer charges, the use of a private email and the destruction of her hard disk and documents should have been so easy to prosecute and get a conviction - get it on the record - get a conviction and remove her from the national discussion

but we have to concentrate on laying charges against Russian hackers who will never be prosecuted, and now Chinese hackers who will never be prosecuted...

WTF man...what is the DoJ actually doing FOR the American people rather than TO the American people

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...-government-n1234463

A grand jury indictment charged Li Xiaoyu, 34, and Dong Jiazhi, 33, with conducting a hacking campaign lasting more than 10 years targeting companies in the U.S., Australia, Belgium, Germany, Japan, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Spain, South Korea, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.

Seriously? We sat around for 10 years and watched these clowns, collected evidence and NOW its an issue? Nothing like the speed of Govt to NOT get the job done. Like it or not, we are China's bitches until we bring the electronics and computer industries home.