Anyone watch this episode. Gun store fire.

This is a weekly NBC tv show that first aired last Wednesday. But I watched it late last night.

They responded to a gun store fire with entrapment.

They arrived and the fire was well involved and when the firefighters entered the ammo in the guns were firing off and bullets ricocheting everywhere. The firefighters were able to save the trapped female in the gun store and the Chief called for everyone out of the building.

A defense fire attack only.

Unbelievable all the false information on guns firing from the heat and fire .

People watch these shit TV shows, where every cops and firefighters look like, and dress like, models? Lol.

no cooking off. Just a fairy tale?

I worked as a pro commercial photographer in downtown Chicago for 25 years.
Much of the time I worked in photo studios in the river north area, back then sq ft.was relatively cheap in that area and it was a reasonable trip for most Art directors coming from Michigan ave. Ad agency's.
We used many models and several different modeling agency's. Quite a few male models came from the Firehouse located at Illinois and Dearborn. The firefighters always seemed to be able to run over for an hour or so to do a photo shoot. When there was a casting call and the model said they worked at the firehouse they got preferential treatment.
They were all easy to work with and easy to get a hold of if you needed to re-shoot something without going back through the Modeling agency. They loved getting paid and not having to hand over a commission to the agency.

Here is a link of the gun store fire .

https://www.facebook.com/NBCOn...nbc/673411025604709/

I forgot the best part . The firefighters used a steel door to use as cover while evacuating out of the fire.

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Originally posted by 808:
Unbelievable all the false information on guns firing from the heat and fire .

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
no cooking off. Just a fairy tale?

Ammo can cook off, once it reaches temps above ~325 degrees and the internal propellant ignites.

The good news is that loose rounds, or even rounds in a magazine or an ammo box, explode harmlessly as the cases split, since the cases aren't strong enough on their own to contain the pressure of the ignited propellant. So there's minimal force in any one direction, since it's all spread out and dissipated in every direction, and there's no danger of being hit by a bullet as there's not enough force specifically acting on the bullet itself to project it at/through anything like if it had been fired normally. There could be some low velocity brass shrapnel from the cases, but little danger.

Now, if that round is chambered inside of a firearm, then the breech and the chamber surrounding the case will contain the pressure of the ignited propellant, with only one outlet: Out the front of the case and down the barrel, behind the bullet it's propelling. So a round that is chambered and subjected to high heat can and will fire a bullet out of the end of the barrel just like one fired by a trigger pull.

Even outside of fires, you sometimes see this on machine guns, which can experience rounds cooking off and firing on their own after large amounts of sustained automatic fire raises the temp of the barrel high enough to ignite subsequent rounds as they're chambered, despite the trigger being released. This is called a "runaway gun", and without gunner intervention like jamming the ammo belt, the gun can continue to load/cookoff/load/cookoff/etc. on its own until it runs out of ammo.

But bullets firing and flying around the room due to boxes of ammo catching on fire - as shown in that Chicago Fire clip - is pure Hollywood.

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Even at over 50 years old, and with the 1970s broadcast standards requiring no blood be shown and babies being born clean and already three months old (no wonder the moms had such a hard time with the delivery!), none of these "fire shows" have surpassed - or even come close to - Emergency!.

Imagine if you will... making entry on a single family residential home. While moving through the living room the structure flashes over on you. You kill the fire and are relieved.

After a bottle change you return to do overhaul. You walk into a bedroom to check for extension and as you enter the doorway you look to the right down the wall. Staring back at you is the business end of a .50 caliber muzzle loader hanging in a rack on the wall at about head level.......

My wife watches these total bullshit shows. (I can’t be in the room)
Loaded guns in a gun store is so much horseshit.
As noted by Rogue, ammo cooking off is no big deal. Your turnouts will stop any penetration but it sure gets the FNG’s attention!

Now the grenade factory fire I responded to was…interesting.
Lots of shit banging away that flexed the store windows outward. Fun times!

Having a lot of time on my hands lately, I watched some 9-1-1 reruns on USA. One rescue took place at a "kiddie" (2-4 years old) beauty pageant. Two "stage moms" got in a fight (offscreen), with one of them getting the spike of a 4-inch-heel pump impaling her face. One fireman stepped forward to help her, but several others did little else but mill around and ogle the little girls in their makeup and costumes. Roy and Johnny would never have done that. Also, the Lebanese couple firefighters do nothing to advance the narrative.

Who can forget Grey's Anatomy episode 6 Season 14 where gun fires off in a va j-j.
I could never walk thru the living room again while my wife had this show was on.

It's not just the gun stuff - these shows always have some IT "guru" who can just sit down at a computer terminal and find anything. And there's always a giant screen that the relevant images pop up on as they're speaking. And of course the constant clacking of key strokes as they type away... Like every popup needs 50 - 100 keystrokes of typed commands...

Damn! If only TV shows were like real life!!!

Let me check… yep… narry a one.
Not a gun store within Chicago City Limits.

Folks- it’s a TV SHOW. Designed and written to capture your attention on that rectangle thing you got hanging on the wall. Not based in reality.

Chicago PD

Chicago Med

Chicago Fire


Sounds like someone ran out of ideas

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Originally posted by Dzozer:
It's not just the gun stuff - these shows always have some IT "guru" who can just sit down at a computer terminal and find anything. And there's always a giant screen that the relevant images pop up on as they're speaking. And of course the constant clacking of key strokes as they type away... Like every popup needs 50 - 100 keystrokes of typed commands...

Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance! Myyyyyy God, call the President, we've found the Octosapien.

The truth is out there...

Too bad they don't make realistic shows like they used to - like the A-Team ...

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Chicago PD

Chicago Med

Chicago Fire


Sounds like someone ran out of ideas

You forgot Chicago Justice.

The first show (Chicago Fire) was moderately successful, so the studio greenlit several concurrently running spinoffs to make even more money while they could.

Mythbusters did a show on this. If my ammo storage area we’re on fire, I wouldn’t enter w/o eye protection as a piece of flying brass could do serious damage to those sensitive organs, but as noted, turnouts might was well be body armor for any risk you’d have from ammo cooking off.

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Folks- it’s a TV SHOW. Designed and written to capture your attention on that rectangle thing you got hanging on the wall. Not based in reality.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yep,consultants cost money. The doctor/hospital shows are full of the same bullshit.