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Right before boot camp starts, tell them they have 30 seconds to "memorize" any phone numbers they wish to call home with during boot camp, then have them delete all contacts! While I still remember the phone number of my house, and my best friends house from when I was a kid, I would be absolutely screwed if I lost my contacts list nowadays.
 
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IIRC, I got to make ONE phone call in Basic prior to Graduation Week, and one during. That was it. We were encouraged to write letters home at least once a week though. Times have changed. I feel old, but still in possession of my Man Card.
 
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Wasn't an issue when I went to basic. All the phones were wired to a wall. I do remember calling home from Korea once from a MARS station. It well and truly sucked.
 
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Marne Corps seems to get by with one “I got here” phone call. That’s it. If you hear your kids voice after that they aren’t cutting it or got injured. That’s pretty much it.

The Marines don’t even actually care if the message was received. The number is dialed and they then scream the verbatim message that is posted at each phone. No additions no subtractions.

It is part of the process. It works. This cell phone use is not a good thing. Young adults need to learn to do without this crutch. This is a good opportunity to do so.
 
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So, where are their cell phones kept the rest of the time they're prohibited to use? If they're locked away inaccessible, fine. But if they're still with the recruits, they will abide by the rule, right? That's right.


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I am curious as to the specifics as well. If you can use them twice in 7 weeks who is charging them, storing them? I certainly wouldn’t trust the recruits to keep them and not use them.
 
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So, where are their cell phones kept the rest of the time they're prohibited to use? If they're locked away inaccessible, fine. But if they're still with the recruits, they will abide by the rule, right? That's right.

From my friend who was a DI at MCRD San Diego:
Recruit cell phones are turned-off and secured in a locker, access is by drill instructors only. In no way are recruits keeping their cell phones with them in their lockers or, on their person.
Access is controlled, Marine Corps is the most strict with access only towards the end of recruit training after completion of Crucible, other services I think its after each training phase.
Phone privileges is an incentive the DI's use for the platoon/company to get their act wired tight.
 
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^^^ If that's the case for all branches, then I don't see an issue. Otherwise, not a good idea..


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^^^ If that's the case for all branches, then I don't see an issue. Otherwise, not a good idea..


This is the case with the navy as well.

If you show up with a cell it goes in a bag.

There are phone in each birthing unit, in what is called the, “fish bowl” its use was given as an incentive a few times during boot camp.

Same concept just now it’s a different piece of hardware.

Sounds like they are simply replacing landlines with cell phones in the same set of instructions.

Again, I’ll find out next year when I got to Great Lakes.





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They are probably allowing jelly donuts in the barracks too.


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My grandson is at USAF BMT (boot camp) right now. They confiscate the phones but give them back for a short scripted call the day after they arrive (to give you their mailing address), and he got a 30-minute call on Christmas Eve (he called the girlfrend). Maybe will get to call on New Year's Eve or Day. He graduates Jan 10-11.
 
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My grandson is at USAF BMT (boot camp) right now. They confiscate the phones but give them back for a short scripted call the day after they arrive (to give you their mailing address)
Just curious -- is there any provision for this "arrival" call, for a recruit who does not bring a cell phone?

I'm trying to remember, it's been a while since I arrived at Navy boot camp in 1956. I don't think that they marched us to the pay phones, I think I recall that we wrote a letter or post card.



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It is part of the process. It works. This cell phone use is not a good thing. Young adults need to learn to do without this crutch. This is a good opportunity to do so.

I agree, 100%.

Why should higher ups deal with hundreds of cell phones so that recruits could use them periodically? Because it it is "high tech", get with the "program"? Roll Eyes

Fuck Kumbaya and good feelings to recruit. The recruits are there to be hardened, and cellphones are the bane of society, and IMO in the training portion of the military. There should be no fucking phones in the school classroom, and damn well in boot camp.

If every cell phone disappeared from existence, I would be smiling.



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I can only hope the drill instructors are using this additional tool to enforce discipline and instill pride in the unit. No device use until private Pyle completes the obstacle course in an acceptable time.
 
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You're wasting your time.
You mind. your. manners.

I am allowed to have an opinion. Others are allowed to have an opinion, and you will stop behaving as if the rest of us are simpletons.

Is that clear enough for you?

Access to personal cell phones while in basic training, is a bad idea, in any and all branches of the US military. It doesn't matter how they're used. It doesn't matter how frequently or infrequently these recruits are allowed to use their personal cell phone, if that frequency is greater than zero.

It's very simple- these kids are addicted- that is the word- addicted to their phones, and that addiction needs to be broken for a time. You don't need to behave as if all of us are dolts who do not know of what we speak. We know exactly what we're talking about, which is the disgusting obsession of young people with their little electronic pacifiers. It's disgusting, and this is a chance for them to grow up a bit.

Is it OK with you that we hold this opinion?

Oh, let us use cocaine "only under the direct supervision of a staff member." Sure, that's the ticket.

Preach it.

Remember all those Navy ships and submarines colliding with other ships and underwater mountains a few years ago ? When that happened I commented in those threads it was the damn cellphones. This sort of proves it more or less. How does a US Navy ship collide with another, or a nuclear powered submarine collide with a mountain, unless the pilots are playing with their ****** cell phones ? And of course, all the excessive pre-DEI and current DEI training instead of how-to-kill-the-enemy type training.

I can't think of a worse place for cell phones than in Bootcamp and unsanctioned use in combat. What an easy way to get killed.

Stupid is as stupid does.




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What's to defend? They're letting the recruits use their phones for a very limited time when they get there and every few weeks to call loved ones, just like we used to do with those ridiculous banks of pay phones.

Have you read either the Army or Air Force policy on cell phone use during basic?


From AF.mil
[QUOTE]Cell Phone Use in Basic Military Training (BMT) (as of June 2016)
During the 7.5 weeks while your loved one is at BMT, he/she will be authorized to use his/her cell phone
or pay phones to make outgoing calls to family members. Trainees are encouraged to maintain their cell
phone service while at BMT and to bring a calling card. Those arriving without phones will be provided
opportunities to use a phone as needed.
General Guidelines:

1. Trainees are encouraged to utilize their cell phone to notify a family member of their safe arrival at
the San Antonio International Airport. Trainees will not have any specific squadron/dorm assignments
at this time.

2. By Saturday of arrival week, trainees will be authorized to call and release their mailing address
information posted on the safe arrival postcard (which will then be mailed to family member's address).

3. Trainees will use cell phones only under direct supervision of a staff member.

4. Trainees are authorized access to their personal cell phones during the fourth week and at the end of
the seventh week of training to firm up travel arrangements with family and guests. During the other
weeks of training and based on their performance, they will have an opportunity to use their personal
cell phones or pay phones to call family or friends. Additionally, trainees will be allowed to use their
personal cell phones to update family and friends on any changes of training status.

5. Cell phones will be used for voice conversations only. Receiving, sending, sharing, or viewing
videos/pictures/text messages is strictly prohibited. Please do not send this type of information to your
trainee. Violations WILL result in disciplinary actions.

6. Prior to arriving at BMT, trainees must remove all photographs or videos which are considered lewd
or pornographic. Our staff will conduct a "Cell Phone Policy Briefing" during the initial health, morale,
and welfare inspection. Trainees will sign a cell phone briefing roster stating they have been informed
of and understand all policies associated with the use of cell phones while at BMT.
This policy is subject to change based on the Basic Training Commander's recommendations. All
changes will be posted immediately upon his/her approval.


Sounds like they have a good plan on how it is being handled, zero access unless permitted, restricted use to voice calls.

Cell phones are mainstream, land lines have gone the way of the dodo and expensive to maintain for very little use. Imagine the costs saved by eliminating land lines is significant when you take them out everywhere, and that there are few if any payphones available, it's just prudent if managed as the guidelines allow.

Now if recruits were allowed to have them every night for unfettered access then, yes I'd agree with all the issues presented about how it would be problematic and impossible to manage, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Looks like they have thought out the process, sure that they had meetings with the very discussions going on here and how to address it.
 
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