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Gave 9 1/2yrs Army getting out in 1977... Spent 3 yrs as a Field Artillery Drill Sgt.. But now with the pussification of current training our enemies are just waiting till we totally destroy our country as we invite them in. ..................... drill sgt. | |||
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I remember Ft Knox early 80's they marched us over to a row of pay phones and everyone got like 5 minutes, think we got to go twice. | |||
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That is basically what this is going to be, except with cell phones. The Army and the Air Force already do this. Why use payphones anymore for calls home? When's the last time someone saw a payphone anyways? The Army and the Air Force give limited periods of monitored phone use to recruits. They don't have free reign to do a bunch of bullshit. ___________________________________________ "Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" -Dr. Thaddeus Venture | |||
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I'm honestly surprised to see some defending this idiocy. "Yeah, but the Army and AF are already doing it...". In the immortal words of my father - If your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it too? Test question: What is the goal of Basic Training? a.) Training kids to protect and defend the country against all enemies both foreign and domestic, and getting their minds and their bodies in shape to do that. b.) Calling mommy. c.) Texting BFF. d.) Posting to Instagram. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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I'd like to call a friend. | |||
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China or Russia could take us today but I guess they are waiting a few more years until those of us born before social media are too old to fight . ----------------------------------------- Roll Tide! Glock Certified Armorer NRA Certified Firearms Instructor | |||
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Idiocy or trying to ensure recruitment numbers do not fall below what they already are? Times change, and if it means allowing kids to use their cell phones on occasion when they earn the privilege to call home versus a pay phone, so be it. We all know that today's military is not what it once was but it is because of piss poor parenting that has been ongoing for how many years now. Can't really blame a kid that has 2 mommies or daddies and has never had their ass whooped for doing wrong. The pussification of the country started long before this bullshit of using a cell phone during boot camp. In other words, "Lighten up Francis." | |||
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That's exactly what got us into this problem. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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And at this point there is not much we can do about it except raise grandchildren the way children should have been raised. | |||
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Okay so let's stop with the assumptions that it's for Facebook or texting friends, though that's fine during the allotted times to contact family, which have been a part of boot camp for a couple decades now. Let's focus on what folks are trying to tell you, who have experience with this and know how it works already. These phones more easily and efficiently accomplish a task that has been a part of Great Lakes for a couple decades. How does that stretch to the far reaching silliness seen in this thread? Recruits are allowed to attend church services on Sundays. Are you to tell me they should be able to attend church but not call home? Is the service more important? Yall can jump off the rails like usual, but at the end of the day, like usual, you're overreacting mostly based off ignorance. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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Just watch who you're calling ignorant around here. I don't have to put up with that. And besides, if it's such a great idea, why weren't they allowing it before? And on top of that, those people- including you, Otto- who think that this privilege won't be abused all to Hell, are the ignorant ones. You think this is not an indication of the coddling of these recruits? You think these kids don't hang onto their phones like a child snuggling with his binky? It's a distraction from the purpose of basic. When the Navy starts allowing the kiddies to have their phone, they ought to issue a nipple to be attached to the Goddamned things. This IS a bad trend. It's a regression into the boundaries of childhood. This is like a signing bonus for adolescents. Join the Navy!! We'll let you keep your pacifier!! You want them to have a phone? Issue them a phone, and only a phone; a device that can make and receive calls and has voicemail. No text, no camera, no games, no apps of any kind, and NO INTERNET ACCESS. Holy Hell | |||
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NAPS doesn’t even allow personal phone use for the first 3 weeks during indoc. For the next 3 weeks , it’s 30 min on a specific weekend day from 1530-1600. If they screw up enough. Phone use is revoked ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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Not sure this is an issue - it's not 1966 anymore. Grandson went to USAF boot camp (BMT) the Monday before Thanksgiving and has been allowed 2 phone calls, and both times called the girlfriend.  | |||
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Allowed two phone calls. "Allowed" as in you need permission. Why do you think that is? Why do you think there is such a restriction on using the phone? And that's just a phone I take it, and not a personal device with text, apps, games and internet access. Why do you think it's this way? How many times have you seen kids damn near walk into a wall while mesmerized by their electronic binky? These kids actually exhibit symptoms of withdrawal if you take their phone from them. Do you find any significance in this? | |||
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How long before cell phone recordings of drill instructors being mean are posted for sympathy, revenge or social justice on social media? How long before political pressure is applied to soften basic training? You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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What's to defend? They're letting the recruits use their phones for a very limited time when they get there and every few weeks to call loved ones, just like we used to do with those ridiculous banks of pay phones. Have you read either the Army or Air Force policy on cell phone use during basic? From AF.mil
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Amen Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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You're wasting your time. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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I've been advocating for YEARS for the cell phone companies to manufacture this type device with kids and teens in mind. Need a phone to let mommy and daddy know when to pick you up or if you're gonna be home late? Sure!! But it's just gonna be a PHONE. A PORTABLE phone. 12 year old kids probably have more sexting and nude photos on their phone today than I've had my entire life. But I digress... "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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You mind. your. manners. I am allowed to have an opinion. Others are allowed to have an opinion, and you will stop behaving as if the rest of us are simpletons. Is that clear enough for you? Access to personal cell phones while in basic training, is a bad idea, in any and all branches of the US military. It doesn't matter how they're used. It doesn't matter how frequently or infrequently these recruits are allowed to use their personal cell phone, if that frequency is greater than zero. It's very simple- these kids are addicted- that is the word- addicted to their phones, and that addiction needs to be broken for a time. You don't need to behave as if all of us are dolts who do not know of what we speak. We know exactly what we're talking about, which is the disgusting obsession of young people with their little electronic pacifiers. It's disgusting, and this is a chance for them to grow up a bit. Is it OK with you that we hold this opinion? Oh, let us use cocaine "only under the direct supervision of a staff member." Sure, that's the ticket. | |||
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