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I have a Win10 computer coming to replace my ancient Win7. I have one of those things you put an internal HDD into to use as an external. Can I put the old HDD in it to pull everything off it to put on the new computer?

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You can except for most of the apps. For those you'll need the installation media that came with them. After you install the disk in the caddy and plug it in, it will look like another drive in your windows explorer. Copy away at that point.
 
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yes, i just did the same by buying a usb hard drive enclosure to transfer pics & docs.
 
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Thanks for the quick replies!


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"Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt"

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
-Bomber Harris
 
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Yes, but you must reinstall any apps as mentioned above.
You could also install internally all you need is another SATA data cable and connect the power.
It would be faster than any USB.
If it accidently boots to your old drive just go into the BIOS and tell it to boot to your W10 drive.
 
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Adding to what smschultz just said, I´ll add this:

You might want to keep the old drive as a backup before moving anything to another location.
I suggest you COPY your stuff to the new drive. Do not erase any contents for a while until satisfied.

It´s good to keep the old drive as is as a reference.
Checking (both) Program Files folders to see what were the original programs installed.

The Users/your user name folder contains a few important folders that you can copy to your new hard drive in the same location and save time. These are Documents, Favorites, downloads, Desktop). These are not program setups but will get you up and running quicker.

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The new computer reads the drive but I can't access my files. HELP!


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"Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt"

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
-Bomber Harris
 
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The new computer reads the drive but I can't access my files. HELP!

Don't panic! I'm guessing that's probably because your user I.D. on the new computer does not match your user I.D. on the old computer or suchlike.

I'm sure somebody who's more current than I on MS-Win will be along shortly to help you work it out. I never was much of an MS-Win Wizzard, now I'm even less so Wink



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The new computer reads the drive but I can't access my files. HELP!

Define "can't access" ~ ie: what exactly is happening?
 
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The new computer reads the drive but I can't access my files. HELP!

Define "can't access" ~ ie: what exactly is happening?



When I click on Users & then the username, I get "You don't currently have permission to access this folder".


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"Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt"

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
-Bomber Harris
 
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When I click on Users & then the username, I get "You don't currently have permission to access this folder".

Since nobody else has chimed in again yet...

I can't tell you how to fix your problem, but I can tell you with greater certainty what it is. When a user is created under MS-Windows the system assigns them a unique Security IDentifier (SID). This consists of a merged unique host identifier and unique user identifier.

Your username, what you see, is only a human friendly reference to that SID.

When you created an account on the new machine you got a new SID. The SID associated with all the files and directories belonging to you on the old machine is not the same. Thus, on the new machine, you don't have permission to access them.

Under Unix and Linux we are able to work around that problem by specifying a new user's UID when we create their account. In this way MS-Windows is actually more secure than Unix/Linux, but also something of a bigger PITA.

I'm sure there's a solution. I just don't know what it is. Sorry. (I have some ideas, but they may not be optimal. So I'll let somebody better-versed in the Ways Of MS-Windows lead you.)



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With your old drive plugged into your new computer you can change the owner of the files on your old hard drive.

Open My Computer

You should see a list of hard drives. C: D:. D: is likely the old drive you plugged into your new computer.

Right Click on D (or the letter of your old hard drive) and select properties.

Select Security Tab

Select Edit

This shows the groups or names allowed access.

Select Add

Select Advanced

Select Find Now

Select your current user name from the list. This is the name you log into your computer

Select Allow Full Control in the next box.

Click OK. The computer should take some time to change the permissions. Once complete your should have access to your old files.
 
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Try logging in on your new computer as Administrator. I've plugged in several external drives into my, at the time, new W10 computer. I even plugged in the internal hard drives I removed from my old XP machine. I mounted them in an external hard drive enclosure and they read perfectly. But not to worry, you've not lost your data and surely one of the work-arounds mentioned will get you access.



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Originally posted by smschulz:
Yes, but you must reinstall any apps as mentioned above.
You could also install internally all you need is another SATA data cable and connect the power.
It would be faster than any USB.
If it accidently boots to your old drive just go into the BIOS and tell it to boot to your W10 drive.
^^^This. Have done just this a number of times and its far faster than screwing around with a USB external drive.


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No access

What folder on what drive are you getting this?
Just a little bit more info is needed.
This can be solved.
 
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No access

What folder on what drive are you getting this?
Just a little bit more info is needed.
This can be solved.


I can access every folder except:
my user let's call it "kz1000"
and Perflog.


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"Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt"

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
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Is your user account also part of the Administrators Group?

Is the "user" you cannot access on the "other" drive?

If so W10 as an admin should let you take control.
Initially you can't but it should 'fix' it and give you access if you are an admin.

Even so you can take control by:
* right click on the folder
* Security tab
* Advanced
* Add your account
* Give full permissions

Note: You may have to CHANGE the owner to your account or system to allow it to change.
 
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Is your user account also part of the Administrators Group?

Is the "user" you cannot access on the "other" drive?

If so W10 as an admin should let you take control.
Initially you can't but it should 'fix' it and give you access if you are an admin.

Even so you can take control by:
* right click on the folder
* Security tab
* Advanced
* Add your account
* Give full permissions

Note: You may have to CHANGE the owner to your account or system to allow it to change.


I tried that. Got this message:


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"Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt"

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
-Bomber Harris
 
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You are trying to access a shortcut to it will and should fail.

FWIW there really no data in that folder.

Your data will be in Docs, Pics, etc
Stay there and you will be fine.

If you need some config files don't go the the Default folder but go to your actual user folder.
And not any shortcuts.

You will get the same error when clicking on Documents and Settings shortcut.
 
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Strange. Try another method of the same.

Right click on the folder, not a shortcut to the folder, and select "Give Access To" and then select your username.

See if you get the same error.
 
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