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June 11, 2017, 07:25 PM
Balzé Halzé
Home invasion robbery goes wrong but...
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:

Because maybe if he had a 30+ round mag and/or ability to do fast mag reloads he could have made more hits before any good guys died. If the gun is not a 1999 registered assault weapon merely inserting a 11+ mag in your AR is a felony. Possession of 11+ mags starting in a few weeks is going to be a crime. We'll see how well compliance goes. I of course will be turning all my 11+ mags in for grocery coupons....


You're making very large assumptions about how things actually went down in that house.

The truth, in this case, is that a ten round mag may have been all that was needed to get the job done.


~Alan

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June 11, 2017, 08:42 PM
armedmd
This is a sad sign of the times in which we live. I think it would be a public service to go ahead create a reunion for the incubator and her stick up kids. I'd say we will see a post regarding some or all of the remaining parasites within the next six months. I just hope they don't injure another decent human being in the process of realizing their maximum potential as fertilizer. This is a job for animal control.


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June 11, 2017, 09:32 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:

Because maybe if he had a 30+ round mag and/or ability to do fast mag reloads he could have made more hits before any good guys died. If the gun is not a 1999 registered assault weapon merely inserting a 11+ mag in your AR is a felony. Possession of 11+ mags starting in a few weeks is going to be a crime. We'll see how well compliance goes. I of course will be turning all my 11+ mags in for grocery coupons....


You're making very large assumptions about how things actually went down in that house.

The truth, in this case, is that a ten round mag may have been all that was needed to get the job done.

Yup, the point was missed entirely. Unless you are privy to more info not presented in the article, all you do is assume how thing went down.


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June 12, 2017, 12:09 AM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
You're making very large assumptions about how things actually went down in that house.

The truth, in this case, is that a ten round mag may have been all that was needed to get the job done.

Yup, the point was missed entirely. Unless you are privy to more info not presented in the article, all you do is assume how thing went down.

True. More rounds may have made no difference. The son may have only fired two shots from the AR. Or maybe the BGs were lined up perfectly and he killed them both with a single bullet. Who knows? Anything might have happened.

But, I doubt anyone engaged in an active gunfight is happy having fewer rounds. More be better.




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June 12, 2017, 04:07 AM
ulsterman
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:

Because maybe if he had a 30+ round mag and/or ability to do fast mag reloads he could have made more hits before any good guys died. If the gun is not a 1999 registered assault weapon merely inserting a 11+ mag in your AR is a felony. Possession of 11+ mags starting in a few weeks is going to be a crime. We'll see how well compliance goes. I of course will be turning all my 11+ mags in for grocery coupons....


You're making very large assumptions about how things actually went down in that house.

The truth, in this case, is that a ten round mag may have been all that was needed to get the job done.


Which is an assumption on your part.
June 12, 2017, 04:38 AM
XinTX
quote:
Originally posted by vinnybass:
The mindset of the "mother" is unfathomable. My buddy has been telling me for years people like this believe it's their right to take your stuff.


Friend of ours is a Sherriff's Deputy. She does many talks at schools around the county. Says the "entitlement mentality" is pervasive among a LOT of kids today. They feel like they're entitled to anything they want. So they don't see robbery as stealing. They're just getting something they're entitled to have. She gets that attitude a lot when taking in shoplifters. They have this attitude of "Who are you to tell me what I can't have?"

The "moral hazard" of the welfare system.


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June 12, 2017, 05:26 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by ulsterman:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:

Because maybe if he had a 30+ round mag and/or ability to do fast mag reloads he could have made more hits before any good guys died. If the gun is not a 1999 registered assault weapon merely inserting a 11+ mag in your AR is a felony. Possession of 11+ mags starting in a few weeks is going to be a crime. We'll see how well compliance goes. I of course will be turning all my 11+ mags in for grocery coupons....


You're making very large assumptions about how things actually went down in that house.

The truth, in this case, is that a ten round mag may have been all that was needed to get the job done.


Which is an assumption on your part.


Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Look, we only know what we know, and that is that the son engaged the home invaders with an AR and killed them both in a shootout.

If the reason that the father was killed was because the son only injured the thugs--albeit fatally--and then ran out of ammo which allowed the fatally injured thugs to keep firing where they otherwise would have been better neutralized with more lead in their systems, then I really hope those details will come out so they can be used to argue the point that these ridiculous, arbitrary gun laws are dangerous and only get the good, law-abiding citizen killed.

But since we don't know any of that (in fact, For all we know, the round that killed the father came from the son's rifle) I stand by my original comment that the post made regarding California's absurd firearm laws was out of place and frankly irrelevant in this particular case with what we know.


~Alan

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June 24, 2017, 03:34 PM
fiasconva
All I can say is Wow!



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