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Is a mandate/rule enforceable if not in a written format available for all to see?

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July 15, 2020, 07:15 PM
lizardman_u
Is a mandate/rule enforceable if not in a written format available for all to see?
So Monday our Governor had a press conference announcing new "rules" regarding her mandates.

Since Monday I have tried like heck to find an updated copy of her rules as she enumerated them on the TV and radio, but everywhere her new rules are linked the link takes you to rules that were printed 30 June and went into effect 01 July.

If one is choosing to follow said rules how do they know what actions they are supposed to take? If one wants to be defiant of said rules how do they know which line items to disobey?

All of our Revised Statutes in our state as well as the Administration rules can be found with a quick internet search.

I find this lack of information to be piss poor management from the top down (at the state level). Heck if our President suggests an item our Governor does exactly the opposite.


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July 15, 2020, 07:23 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Probably.You live in Oregon. Even unspoken mandates apply.
I doubt whether you would get anywhere with that argument even though it is reasonable.
July 15, 2020, 08:19 PM
Aglifter
Firearms “rules” worked that way for years. Took a major fight, and the involvement of a congressman, to get them to fess up that they didn’t have a written set.

TMK, laws have to be published to be legal, but DC, at least, abandoned being legitimate, in all but pretense, years ago.
July 15, 2020, 08:32 PM
Oregon
https://www.oregon.gov/gov/adm...xecutive-orders.aspx

Scroll down and click on Executive Order 20-30 for a PDF of the EO.


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July 15, 2020, 08:53 PM
lizardman_u
quote:
Originally posted by Oregon:
https://www.oregon.gov/gov/adm...xecutive-orders.aspx

Scroll down and click on Executive Order 20-30 for a PDF of the EO.


This is the one that started 01 July.

I am looking for the one that starts 15 July (today) that the Governor announced on 13 July.

One of the reasons this is concerning is that she stated that if you have more than 10 people in your home (gathering) she would send "enforcers" into your house without a warrant. That is what she said on the TV/Radio during her press conference.

I may only be 50, but this whole set of mandates and executive orders seems wrong on so many levels.


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July 15, 2020, 09:40 PM
wrightd
At this point in the current state of political insanity does it really matter any more ? Conservatives are drawing their invisible lines in the sand, some more or less, some sooner or later, but if things don't swing back to some semblance of normalcy, the lines may become increasingly obvious.




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July 15, 2020, 09:42 PM
BamaJeepster
It's documented on Twitter! It's Twitter Official!

https://twitter.com/OregonGovB.../1282751757378977793



Reminder posted today:





“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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July 15, 2020, 10:18 PM
lizardman_u
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
It's documented on Twitter! It's Twitter Official!

https://twitter.com/OregonGovB.../1282751757378977793



Reminder posted today:



See I don't have a twitter account, and don't believe most of what is on fakebook.

I guess I can maintain and do only as I or my wife see fit in my own home, and I'll be damned if I wear a face covering outside.

Might have to have a BBQ next weekend.


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