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So much for training the military to understand the Communist enemy. Your Department of Defense tax payer dollars being used to indoctrinate military officers at the NDU Eisenhower school on the strategy of adopting Democratic Socialism to counter the threat of Communist China.

There is an effort to try and prevent this speaker from addressing these officers at NDU.

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https://rumble.com/embed/vs2gd7/?pub=4


Edited: original video deleted at source, replaced with newer edited video.

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Is he something other than a shill?





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More information about this travesty. The rot within the Biden administration is over the top. Promoting socialism at the National Defense University.

https://inss.ndu.edu/Media/New...emocratic-socialism/


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I can’t on one hand condemn Cal Berkley for censoring conservative speech then support censoring leftist speech. Let him come, let him say his piece. Are you concerned that his ideals will win the day over our ideals?


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That’s like taking up recreational heroin use to get over your drinking problem.

Dealing with the problem makes more sense than creating a new problem.


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Needs to be put up against the wall and shot for treason.


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I can’t on one hand condemn Cal Berkley for censoring conservative speech then support censoring leftist speech. Let him come, let him say his piece. Are you concerned that his ideals will win the day over our ideals?


The difference is that this University and the guest speaker are being paid for by tax payer dollars.

As failed and corrosive an ideology as it is, if parents want to pay Harvard or Yale to teach their kids about adopting Socialism, so be it.

But, I draw the line at publicly funded institutions, including military institutions charged with preparing U.S. military officers for war, with teaching this.

I am opposed to teaching Socialism at the NDU for the same reasons I'm opposed to teaching Critical Race Theory or the acceptance of pedophilia at one of the U.S. service academies. They are toxic ideologies, based on lies, and fail to prepare officers for war.
 
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More information about this travesty. The rot within the Biden administration is over the top. Promoting socialism at the National Defense University.

https://inss.ndu.edu/Media/New...emocratic-socialism/


I did a brief search of the NDU and Eisenhower School websites but came up empty. I would've preferred to have posted text rather than a drama queen video in the OP, so I appreciate your posting the link.
 
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Are most Western European governments our allies? What is the predominant political/economic thought in those countries? An academic setting seems like the perfect place to expose our future military leaders to the prevailing ideologies of both our allies and our enemies.

Its a single lecture. If that’s enough to turn all of these students into commies we are already lost.


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I can’t on one hand condemn Cal Berkley for censoring conservative speech then support censoring leftist speech. Let him come, let him say his piece. Are you concerned that his ideals will win the day over our ideals?


We can't look at this as one speech. It's part of a larger agenda. What about Gen. Milley promoting sessions for the military on the dangers of "white supremacy?" And the school boards indoctrinating vulnerable students on critical race theory,painting whites as oppressors?

The propaganda being spread in our institutions may not materially change our generation but we shouldn't discount its long term consequences.


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I can’t on one hand condemn Cal Berkley for censoring conservative speech then support censoring leftist speech. Let him come, let him say his piece. Are you concerned that his ideals will win the day over our ideals?


No, but no one is fairly presenting our ideals on campus anymore.



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I can’t on one hand condemn Cal Berkley for censoring conservative speech then support censoring leftist speech. Let him come, let him say his piece. Are you concerned that his ideals will win the day over our ideals?


We can't look at this as one speech. It's part of a larger agenda. What about Gen. Milley promoting sessions for the military on the dangers of "white supremacy?" And the school boards indoctrinating vulnerable students on critical race theory,painting whites as oppressors?

The propaganda being spread in our institutions may not materially change our generation but we shouldn't discount its long term consequences.


We also can’t lump all of these things together under the specter of “liberal indoctrination”. Allowing a one hour lecture for college students endorsing a political and economic ideology currently in use is not “liberal indoctrination”. We are preparing these students to act on our behalf on the geopolitical problems of the future, should we shield them from the thinking of our enemies and allies in the process? These aren’t elementary school kids being told they are white supremacist by default.

Have we descended so deeply into tribalism that we cant parse these two issues? Again, if these future leaders of our military and political institutions can’t think critically in the face of an opposing ideology we are right fucked anyway.


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We have cadets before that made "questionable" choices, like the one who wore a Che shirt. He was a poison that needed to be dealt with and eventually was. When we allow someone with an ideology like his to speak, it can give the students the idea "it is ok to talk and think about Socialism" as they are allowed on our campus and can plant seeds in their minds. I am not saying all will fall into the trap but there will be some, just like in this administration we have. We should by all means condemn this allowance for a speaker such as this, to speak against our way of life. It is not beneficial for anyone to hear. It is evil,pure and simple.
 
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There was a bunch of this kinda junk right before WWII as well, pushing that FDR should become a despot, as the only way to counter Hitler/Mussolini.

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Thomas Piketty, the guest speaker:

Speaker Bio

Thomas Piketty is a French economist who is Professor of Economics at the School for Advanced Studies in the Social Sciences, Associate Chair at the Paris School of Economics and Centennial Professor of Economics in the International Inequalities Institute at the London School of Economics. Piketty is the author of “Capital in the 21st Century” (2013) and “Capital and Ideology” (2020).

The title of his NDU lecture:

Responding to China: The Case For Global Justice and Democratic Socialism

Summary of his lecture

Western countries are still struggling to define their attitude towards the Beijing regime. In this talk on February 22, 2022, Thomas Piketty will argue that the right answer lies in ending Western arrogance and promoting a new emancipatory and egalitarian horizon on a global scale, a new form of democratic and participatory, ecological and post-colonial socialism. If they stick to their usual lecturing posture and a dated hyper-capitalist model, Western countries may find it extremely difficult to meet the Chinese challenge.

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Originally posted by TXJIM:
We also can’t lump all of these things together under the specter of “liberal indoctrination”. Allowing a one hour lecture for college students endorsing a political and economic ideology currently in use is not “liberal indoctrination”. We are preparing these students to act on our behalf on the geopolitical problems of the future, should we shield them from the thinking of our enemies and allies in the process? These aren’t elementary school kids being told they are white supremacist by default.

Have we descended so deeply into tribalism that we cant parse these two issues? Again, if these future leaders of our military and political institutions can’t think critically in the face of an opposing ideology we are right fucked anyway.


There was a time, not so long ago, when I was more tolerant of opinions in opposition to my own. But, the radical Progressive Marxist Left has veered even farther to the extremist side that they have departed rational thought, to the exclusion of facts. Worse yet, they are hell bent on cancel culture and the indoctrination of ever-younger socialists and communists.

If Thomas Picketty was going to present a balanced academic lecture of various ideologies, their definitions and histories, and examples of them I wouldn't be opposed to that. If the NDU had scheduled an academic supporter of free market Capitalism who appeared together with Picketty as a point/ counterpoint presentation, I could support that. If NDU had held a balanced scholarly debate between supporters of the two ideologies, I could even support that.

But RogB is exactly right, this lecture can't be viewed as a standalone one-off balanced lecture. Critical Race Theory, white privilege, LGBTQXYZ acceptance, Global Warming/ Climate Change, are the Leftist agenda de rigueur curriculum, and many of these military officers have already been exposed to this.

There are several high profile examples of top military leadership that have adopted Leftist ideology. I've met a couple young LTs. that held similar beliefs, and there are countless similar anecdotes.

Dr. Gorka, while teaching at Fort Bragg, shared an anecdote in which he gave students in his class (O3s to O5s), an assignment to identify the biggest threat and formulate a plan to counter it. The majority of students in his class identified Climate Change as the biggest threat.

When you find yourself in a hole, the first rule is to stop digging, and I don't want these military officers graduating with a hatred for the U.S., wondering why they should fight for it and, as a tax payer, I don't want to fund their indoctrination into a failed toxic ideology.

A simple respect for ideologies contrary to their own and a focus on accomplishing the mission is all that is required for U.S. officers to work with and cooperate with European allies. Regarding understanding an enemy, there is a difference between studying their ideology and adopting it. Training military officers to sympathize with an enemy's ideology is a recipe for failure.

If U.S. military officers want to study the adoption of socialism, let them do it on their own dime and their own time.
 
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Exactly right. As Reagan said, "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction."


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