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First off, I hate the stuff. I've never had a coating that holds up. What ever anti glare benefits I get is offset by the inevitable microscratches that get worse and worse until the lenses are useless.

Just got a new pair less than a week ago. I was forced to get the coating because that's just how it is (reminds me of the car dealership scene in Fargo).

I've made a point of following the "Tech's" advice on care. Always clean wet with Dawn, water, and a clean microfiber cloth. I'm even using distilled water because we're on a well.

Still getting scratches. Small, light scratches, but I know the'll get worse. And for $600, I'm really pissed.

I'm thinking about going in and demanding lenses without the shitty coating, but wanted to know if anyone here has gone the "non coated" route and what their experience is.

I hate Lens Crafters, but at this time, theyre the only game in town.





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Posts: 3628 | Location: Middle Tennessee  | Registered: March 23, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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https://www.warbyparker.com/eyeglasses

Do you have a walmart supercenter near you they have an eye glass department,

https://www.walmart.com/cp/vision-centers/1078944

Costco if you have a membership has great prices on glasses
 
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https://www.warbyparker.com/eyeglasses

Do you have a walmart supercenter near you they have an eye glass department,

Costco if you have a membership has great prices on glasses


Agreed. Also looking at Costco. I think they're two of the few options outside the Luxottica monopoly.





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Posts: 3628 | Location: Middle Tennessee  | Registered: March 23, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I order my glasses from Zenni Optical. My glasses that cost $600 from the optician in San Antonio (progressive high index lenses in a nice frame) are under $100 from Zenni. Their coatings seem to be about as good, or if you prefer, you can order uncoated for less money. I’ve been using Zenni for several years and been very satisfied with their products, but you need to know what you’re doing when you order from them, because if you screw up your order form you’re SOL. They make them the way you order them.
 
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My $50 rimless glasses from Zenni have zero scratches a year later, splurged for the $4.95 AR coating



 
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I don’t suffer any scratching problem with coated lenses – even with cheap reading glasses bought in a grocery store.

My cleaning technique: I rinse dust off under a stream of tap water. Then I dribble some Dawn detergent on the lenses and rub that around with my (clean) fingers. Rinse with more tap water, then dry with tissue paper.



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Does anyone have experience with non coated lenses?





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I've been using anti-reflective coatings for years and years. Never had a problem.

I think I have Hoya coatings (anti-reflective but also includes UV/blue).

I use microfiber and the B&L Sight Saver wet wipes without issue.

I would rather have scratches than have uncoated lenses. I can see through scratches. The reflection from light sources from behind can be blinding and a safety issue for me.




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Do you have a walmart supercenter near you they have an eye glass department,


Run, don't walk from Walmart eyeglass. My current set is from there, I got the most expensive "best" lens. They are by far the worst for scratching / scuffing I have ever had in my almost 60 years of wearing glasses. At one year they need replacing.



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Posts: 4226 | Location: Middle Tennessee | Registered: February 07, 2013Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I never get any coatings on my glasses. Never really had any issues, end up with a few scratches over a few years but nothing so bad that I need to replace the lenses.

My GF just started to need glasses and she the works on her lenses. She says the AG coating is great for sitting behind a computer all day and especially when driving at night.

I'm considering giving the AG coating a shot on my next glasses since most people like to drive with their high beams on or with the new LED lights that let them see into the future.
 
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I believe AR Coatings are proprietary, I'm guessing whatever Lens Crafters uses is pretty bottom of the barrel.





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IIRC mine from Costco come with an anti-scratch coating that has proven very successful. Most opticians also offer a 1 year guarantee

Did yours come with the guarantee?

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I think I have 30 days.





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If you don't mind more glare at night when driving or on a screen, you will probably be fine with non-antireflective lenses...but make sure you get scratch-resistant lenses. And, stay away from polycarbonate lenses (LensCrafters FeatherWates) as they scratch too easy, even with scratch-resistant treatment (IMNSHO). Trivex or high-index plastic is what I do for myself. I also get the *best* antireflective available whenever I get new glasses...but I do get a discount! Wink

(by the way, some lens designs can *only* be obtained with the antireflective already applied, so what you're being told may be so for the particular lens you're buying...but you may not be tied to that particular lens design)

Nowadays, the premium antireflective products are really good and really difficult to peel or scratch...but any...ANY...ophthalmic product will scratch. Personally, I don't like the microfiber cloths as I believe they retain foreign bodies that scratch lenses...but people like them, so...

I will wet my lenses under the faucet and get soap on my fingers and clean the lenses, then I'll use a paper towl to BLOT the lenses clean, not wipe them...this may be where your small scratches are coming from-wiping them clean. Distilled water is good, though.

Eyeglasses are like anything else-you can pay a little or pay a lot-and in *most* cases, get what you pay for, whether online, at a national chain or a small independent office. I'm sorry you're having the trouble you're having. Don't be afraid to go without antireflective; it works and is good, but not *absolutely* necessary.
 
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I have a very extreme prescription, so high index is a must to keep the thickness down. I’m pretty sure I’m stuck with polycarbonate. Guess I’ll just have to live with it.





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I’m 20/600, uncorrected. Zenni has several types of high index lenses available.
 
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I think I have 30 days.


I would take the eyeglasses back ASAP and ask for assistance.

The markup in glasses is very high as to what the seller pays and will likely make a good fix for you.

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I have a very extreme prescription, so high index is a must to keep the thickness down. I’m pretty sure I’m stuck with polycarbonate. Guess I’ll just have to live with it.


I have a -6.75 prescription, so I may be in the same boat, but Polycarbonate is not your best choice. There are 1.67 and 1.74 high index lenses that are thinner and have better optics, while being more scratch resistant with coatings typically applied.
I have Hoya 1.67 hi-index lenses with their super hi-vision scratch coating and they are fantastic. No scratches at 3 years.
 
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Thanks all for the advice.

FYI. I’m -7.50 and -8.75. Eek

I think the Optometrist had the controls hard over. I’m pushing 50 and hope they don’t get much worse.





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I have a very extreme prescription, so high index is a must to keep the thickness down. I’m pretty sure I’m stuck with polycarbonate. Guess I’ll just have to live with it.


I have a -6.75 prescription, so I may be in the same boat, but Polycarbonate is not your best choice. There are 1.67 and 1.74 high index lenses that are thinner and have better optics, while being more scratch resistant with coatings typically applied.
I have Hoya 1.67 hi-index lenses with their super hi-vision scratch coating and they are fantastic. No scratches at 3 years.


Quit stealing my thunder! Wink

The only other lens material I would is consider is Trivex, but the -1.74 is the thinnest option available (that is not stratospherically expensive!).

Don't scrimp on the antireflective if you continue with it.
 
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