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I have a similar problem with a whoopty next to my garage.Bought it from my scumbag brother in law who won't and can't produce a title. I'm only out a couple hundred bucks. It runs so I told the wife we'll fill it up with all our broken electronics and park it some where. Most likely that will be at said brother in laws house....in a distinctly inconvenient location....and then remove my new battery.
 
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Call the police and have it towed. It can then accrue a daily fee there and rot. You’ve been more than fair and patient. No more Mr. Nice Guy


The police wont' tow it off private property.





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Depends on where you are.
Here police can’t tow from private property (with no crime relation). If you have a vehicle that does not belong to you on your property the main local tow company will tow off private property for free you just sign an affidavit that it is not yours.
They charge the storage fee to the owner, if not claimed in 60 days it becomes tow company property.


This.

It isnt' your car, and isn't your problem.

Call the tow truck.

Anyone with an interest, either a load on it or for it, will have to deal with it. ANd if they don't, then they lose the car.

YOu notified the owner about ten times more than you need to. Screw it... tow it, and if the "owner" gets mad then they did you a favor by never talking to you again...





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I have a similar problem with a whoopty next to my garage.Bought it from my scumbag brother in law who won't and can't produce a title. I'm only out a couple hundred bucks. It runs so I told the wife we'll fill it up with all our broken electronics and park it some where. Most likely that will be at said brother in laws house....in a distinctly inconvenient location....and then remove my new battery.


Do you have a bill of sale?
Around here you can go file for a title for like $30.


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Call the woman and get her to repo it. No need to place yourself in the middle of your brother's mess.


He already is.
 
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Here's an idea....get AAA roadside assistance, cost is minimal, on all your vehicles plus the junker, wait a couple weeks and have the car towed to your family members house or whatever destination you choose. Cheap way to get the car removed from your property and roadside assistance is a good product to have anyway since they'll come out to jump start your car or change a tire in addition to towing.
 
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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Depends on where you are.
Here police can’t tow from private property (with no crime relation). If you have a vehicle that does not belong to you on your property the main local tow company will tow off private property for free you just sign an affidavit that it is not yours.
They charge the storage fee to the owner, if not claimed in 60 days it becomes tow company property.
This.
 
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But what do I know, I only do this stuff all day every day 15 minutes down the road from the OP's house...

I don't know what you know. I do know what I know, and I know I Am Not A Lawyer.

There is a principle in law called a "bailment agreement." This happens any time "...one person agrees to take physical possession of another person's property for safekeeping or other purpose, but does not take ownership of it, with the understanding it will be returned at a later date." (Ref: What is a Bailment Agreement?, for example.)

It is my understanding of the law that one cannot simply take possession of somebody's property for the purpose of safe-keeping, then arbitrarily decide to unilaterally abrogate the (implied) contract.

That is why the State of Virginia's process is so involved. Have you gotten away with what you've done? Apparently so. Fortunately, somebody doing what they "feel" is right, or what they find to be the most convenient for them, does not form the basis for law.

But, again: IANAL. Nor do I play one on TV. Nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. So my opinions on legal matters are worth even less than what anybody here pays for them.

One of our resident land sharks once wrote something to the effect of how people here are fond of playing lawyer and offering all kinds of legal advice--all completely wrong. Wish I'd saved that quote.

I presume Virginia's own web site has it right, which is why I referred the OP to it.



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She has title, it’s her car.
It’s her problem.

I had an issue like this many years ago.
I moved the vehicle to the street and called the police.

It was towed, never heard another thing.

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Call the lady who has the lien. 'Hi, release the lien on this vehicle so I can dispose of it or I'm having someone tow it to your house/place of business. Thank you.'


That's what I would do.


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Interested to hear what happens Monday.
 
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Originally posted by Scurvy:
But what do I know, I only do this stuff all day every day 15 minutes down the road from the OP's house...

I don't know what you know. I do know what I know, and I know I Am Not A Lawyer.

There is a principle in law called a "bailment agreement." This happens any time "...one person agrees to take physical possession of another person's property for safekeeping or other purpose, but does not take ownership of it, with the understanding it will be returned at a later date." (Ref: What is a Bailment Agreement?, for example.)

It is my understanding of the law that one cannot simply take possession of somebody's property for the purpose of safe-keeping, then arbitrarily decide to unilaterally abrogate the (implied) contract.

That is why the State of Virginia's process is so involved. Have you gotten away with what you've done? Apparently so. Fortunately, somebody doing what they "feel" is right, or what they find to be the most convenient for them, does not form the basis for law.

But, again: IANAL. Nor do I play one on TV. Nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. So my opinions on legal matters are worth even less than what anybody here pays for them.

One of our resident land sharks once wrote something to the effect of how people here are fond of playing lawyer and offering all kinds of legal advice--all completely wrong. Wish I'd saved that quote.

I presume Virginia's own web site has it right, which is why I referred the OP to it.


Bailment has literally nothing to do with this case. He's not going to try and sell or scrap the vehicle without owning it and no one is suggesting he needs to.

You don't have to be a lawyer to understand how this works because this isn't a 'legal' issue.

All I said was he should tell the lady to release the lien or he would tow it to her house. Neither of those would violate any implied bailment. He would be returning the vehicle to its owner.

If he wants to sell the vehicle then he needs to go through the process. I suggested a much easier and faster method to rid himself of the issue.

Again, I literally handle situations like this on a regular basis in my career. I work for a fortune 500 company.
 
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Update: The car is gone. I took Scurvy's advice and reached out to the lien holder via text. I included the DMV link that ensig shared in my text. She made arrangements to have it picked up today. The entire process to 31 hours start to finish. Thanks guys.


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Originally posted by Scurvy:
But what do I know, I only do this stuff all day every day 15 minutes down the road from the OP's house...

I don't know what you know. I do know what I know, and I know I Am Not A Lawyer.

There is a principle in law called a "bailment agreement." This happens any time "...one person agrees to take physical possession of another person's property for safekeeping or other purpose, but does not take ownership of it, with the understanding it will be returned at a later date." (Ref: What is a Bailment Agreement?, for example.)

It is my understanding of the law that one cannot simply take possession of somebody's property for the purpose of safe-keeping, then arbitrarily decide to unilaterally abrogate the (implied) contract.

That is why the State of Virginia's process is so involved. Have you gotten away with what you've done? Apparently so. Fortunately, somebody doing what they "feel" is right, or what they find to be the most convenient for them, does not form the basis for law.

But, again: IANAL. Nor do I play one on TV. Nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. So my opinions on legal matters are worth even less than what anybody here pays for them.

One of our resident land sharks once wrote something to the effect of how people here are fond of playing lawyer and offering all kinds of legal advice--all completely wrong. Wish I'd saved that quote.

I presume Virginia's own web site has it right, which is why I referred the OP to it.


Bailment has literally nothing to do with this case. He's not going to try and sell or scrap the vehicle without owning it and no one is suggesting he needs to.

You don't have to be a lawyer to understand how this works because this isn't a 'legal' issue.

All I said was he should tell the lady to release the lien or he would tow it to her house. Neither of those would violate any implied bailment. He would be returning the vehicle to its owner.

If he wants to sell the vehicle then he needs to go through the process. I suggested a much easier and faster method to rid himself of the issue.

Again, I literally handle situations like this on a regular basis in my career. I work for a fortune 500 company.


It’s not the lien holders car. She would have to repossess it. It is his brothers car at the moment. He has legal ownership. The op would have to apply for a storage title to then do with it as he pleases or could probably pay to have it towed to his brothers residence and be legal.
 
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