Soccer team lost in cave in Thailand.

July 07, 2018, 12:58 PM

They can either try something, or sit there and watch them die anyway.

Like the EOD guy replied when asked what does he do when confronted with a potential bomb he has never seen before. He said you analyse it as best you can, and hope you are right.

Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

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July 07, 2018, 01:00 PM

RHINOWSO

Oh I agree, diving them out if there is no other option is the logical thing to do.

I just have a realistic expectation of the probable outcome.

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July 07, 2018, 01:03 PM

mbinky

"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week."
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As much as it sucks it may be necessary.

July 07, 2018, 01:06 PM

TigerDore

quote:
Originally posted by SpinZone:
quote:
Originally posted by ulsterman:
Question for the divers; According to the articles I've read, there is a narrow portion where they have to remove their equipment to get thru. How do you do that buddy diving with a novice?

Cave divers use a spare regulator with a longer hose than an open water diver would use. This extra hose allows the diver to remove and replace their gear while the person on the spare regulator stays out of the way as well as follow far enough behind to be out of the diver's way in tight areas.

Good insight, SpinZone, thanks.

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July 07, 2018, 02:44 PM

mod29

To all the rescue divers trying to get these kids out: RESPECT.
That kind of work takes balls.

Best of luck to all involved.

July 07, 2018, 02:53 PM

kkina

I hope none of the boys have hydrophobia. I have a buddy who cannot put his entire face underwater. And I mean with a facemask and snorkel, standing in waist-deep water.

I wonder if the kids know one of the SEALs died.

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July 07, 2018, 06:23 PM

sdy

https://www.nytimes.com/intera...hai-cave-rescue.html

Inside the Thai Cave: How Rescuers
Are Trying to Save a Soccer Team

July 07, 2018, 06:26 PM

flashguy

Has anyone checked out the situation farther back in the cave? From the cross-section it looks as if the distance to the surface is less there, and possible there might be a way up.

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July 07, 2018, 06:59 PM

Ronin1069

quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
Anyone hear if they are attempting extraction yet?

Nope. I've been following this story pretty close; to include Twitter.

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July 07, 2018, 07:04 PM

Gustofer

quote:
Originally posted by newmexican:
Hopefully the small stature of the kids will help them through the tight areas a bit easier.

Well, they got in there pretty easily evidently, so getting out should be the same. Aside from being underwater of course.

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July 07, 2018, 07:04 PM

kkina

quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
Anyone hear if they are attempting extraction yet?

Nothing official but word is they have prepared the cave entrance for reception. The street that leads up to the cave has been cleared, and there's a new warning sign about oxygen tanks and explosion danger.

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July 07, 2018, 07:23 PM

Fenris

Whether it helps or not, I am praying for these boys and the men who are rescuing them. A dangerous business.

Godspeed.