What a twat waffle. Next he's gonna' want to take the pole.

H&K-Guy

Maybe if he had bigger breasts....

Next up: a male stripper will sue.

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Originally posted by H&K-Guy:
What a twat waffle. Next he's gonna' want to take the pole.

H&K-Guy

The US male has been the underdog in gender biased court proceedings for years. This guy now decides to fight back in the same venue and he's a twat waffle?

I missed something, was the hiring process gender biased? If so what was the correct thing this guy should have done? Cut the owner's tires? Burn the club down?

Alpine and I agree on something

Shit

That's one of the signs of the coming apocalypse

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Alpine and I agree on something

Shit

That's one of the signs of the coming apocalypse

That's funny

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Alpine and I agree on something

Shit

That's one of the signs of the coming apocalypse

I'm banned?

No, but you're a troll. That's for certain.

Sometimes I have to approach things at different angles to see the true picture. Anything I say after this will probably dip me in grease.

Oh, I'm with you all the way, Alpine.

Everybody needs a pastime.

Am I the only one who needs pictures to fully understand this situation?

Aside from the backstory with Para and Alpine, I agree with you fellas. Fair is fair, can't just have empty heads and stuffed bras behind the bar. I've worked in more than enough restaurants and bars over the last twenty years to where I hope he's successful in his suit, simply put.

Alpine,

Wow. I guess I didn’t see what was right in front of me. My deepest apologies. I didn’t realize what we were really talking about. I see now where you are coming from. And yes, now that I ‘get it’, I completely support you and your kind.

You like to go to Clubs with half naked men behind the bar, on the pole, and giving out bottles of ‘Champagne’ in the back rooms, and there is nothing wrong with that. I fully endorse your lifestyle and wish you success in all of your endeavors and pursuits. Please forgive me for not seeing what we were talking about before.

I have a friend like you, that goes to ‘those types’ of Bars and Clubs. We get along great. He does his thing with his people and I do my thing with mine. We just give each other the room to explore each of our lifestyles. There is nothing wrong with you and the way you live your life. I wish you only the best. I regret any discrimination I might have showed your kind of Bar or Club.

You know, especially in this day and age, it’s become quite acceptable for some young men to like those types of Bars and Clubs. We have some of those up here in the Northland, you know. I’ve never been to one, but my friend that I was talking about goes all the time. They tend to hire only young men, though. In fact the discrimination is set up just the opposite of what your man in the story is probably experiencing. From what I understand, Females are completely shut out of the business and entertainment that goes on there. Hmmmmm.

Anyway, hat’s off to ya’, and good night.

H&K-Guy

Alpine may be a troll, but I don't think he's a fanny bandit.

Places like Hooters, for instance, don't hire "Servers", they hire "Models who also serve", which, IIRC, somehow legally allows them the ability to not only make hiring decisions based on gender but also on attractiveness and dictate they wear those "uniforms". I'd expect that most strip clubs operate similarly.

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Places like Hooters, for instance, don't hire "Servers", they hire "Models who also serve", which, IIRC, somehow legally allows them the ability to not only make hiring decisions based on gender but also on attractiveness and dictate they wear those "uniforms". I'd expect that most strip clubs operate similarly.

Having been in that business once upon a time, that is 100% correct. Granted, we didn't have a problem with male bartenders.

We were an entertainment venue who hired people to fill specific roles in our show. Just like Disney wouldn't hire a guy to play a princess, all of our entertainers were female. We had reception hosts, courtesy patrol, and other positions with odd names due to the roles they played. Those of us who filled management roles were directors.

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Originally posted by Alpine79830:

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Originally posted by H&K-Guy:
What a twat waffle. Next he's gonna' want to take the pole.

H&K-Guy

The US male has been the underdog in gender biased court proceedings for years. This guy now decides to fight back in the same venue and he's a twat waffle?

I missed something, was the hiring process gender biased? If so what was the correct thing this guy should have done? Cut the owner's tires? Burn the club down?

This is what I don't get: Why can't a legitimate business have a legitimate business plan that exploits masculine sex drive? In other words, why can't that bar's business plan specifically call for attractive female bartenders only, no male bartenders? The business incentive to do that is obvious, and has NOTHING to do with discrimination (where "discrimination" is an unfounded preference for a characteristic, as opposed to a rational requirement for a characteristic).

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Originally posted by SapperSteel:

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Originally posted by Alpine79830:

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Originally posted by H&K-Guy:
What a twat waffle. Next he's gonna' want to take the pole.

H&K-Guy

The US male has been the underdog in gender biased court proceedings for years. This guy now decides to fight back in the same venue and he's a twat waffle?

I missed something, was the hiring process gender biased? If so what was the correct thing this guy should have done? Cut the owner's tires? Burn the club down?

This is what I don't get: Why can't a legitimate business have a legitimate business plan that exploits masculine sex drive? In other words, why can't that bar's business plan specifically call for attractive female bartenders only, no male bartenders? The business incentive to do that is obvious, and has NOTHING to do with discrimination (where "discrimination" is an unfounded preference for a characteristic, as opposed to a rational requirement for a characteristic).

Preach it, Brotha'!

H&K-Guy

Back in the '80s I worked in a very successful restaurant. The guys all started as dishwashers and the girls all started as "liqueur girls" who came around after your meal and recited the 17 different liqueurs you could choose from complimentary with your meal (non drinkers and those under age could have a sherbet instead). Guys could either work their way up to busboy or prep cook. Gals worked their way up to waitress. On a weekend night, girls working the main dining room would take home ar least $200 in tips. Busboys and cooks did get tipped out, but for a busboy, $20 was a typical weekend night. Is it any wonder that someone filed a sexual discrimination lawsuit to become a waiter? When I was there, the initial guy (who had sued to get the waiting job) had already left, but there was one waiter, the second guy to ever get that job.

In a restaurant (other than an "entertainment themed" place like Hooters), the discrimination is bogus. In a strip club, me thinks the strip club screwed up with their job descriptions...