Well, I took the pups out for a little walk/potty break and all of the roads are covered with black ice. Even if it looked dry, it had some black ice on it. I almost fell four times.

The Temperatures are right at 32° F, with windchill at 30° or so.

Out walking, a Jeep came down the main road, and when they was taking a turn, there was a little slippage.

Years ago in my Jeep, I was setting at a stop sign on a hill, there was black ice and just sitting there, I slid out into the main road with a car coming on.


I hate black ice!

ARman

It's bad not only because it can't be seen, but because no tire other than studded can get any kind of traction on it.

Several years ago, I was headed home from the train station in Harper's Ferry, WV with the trusty 4 Runner in 4-wheel drive. Made it to the top of the hill and was waiting to pull into traffic when the 4 Runner started to slide backwards down the hill. Needless to say, no steering no brakes. Luckily it slid into the cable the Park Service uses for railing. Small badge of honor on the quarter panel to remind me about black ice.

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I hate black ice!

ARman

This is the type of post that having your location in your profile would be helpful. I don’t understand why some members are reluctant to do that.

Wasn't black ice, per se, but the next best thing to it.

A number of years back, severe winter storm, power outage at work--at 9 or 10 o'clock at night on a Sunday. Hop into the mighty CR/V with AWD and touring/trail hybrid tires and head in.

Approaching one intersection at the bottom of a long, fairly steep grade, and expecting what I figured I'd see, I slowed down to something like 10 MPH before I even hit the top of it. Sure enough: It's a sheet of "ice" from top to bottom.

The instant I lightly touched the brakes ABS kicked-in.

Even with all that caution I still slid halfway into the intersection at the bottom of that grade.

Expecting the next guy might not be so cautious I backed up and pulled as far over into the right turn lane as I could get and prayed.

The ride home, an hour later, was equally exciting: Blowing like snot and whiteout conditions the entire way.

Many years ago my wife was driving our 1984 RX 7 when she hit black ice, went over a tall curb and tore the bottom out, totaled the car. This was in Bridgewater, NJ, getting on RT 287 north, 20 other vehicles crashed in the same spot before they could get the road blocked.

That's one of the benefits of living in the peninsula of Florida: no black ice.

That's something I don't miss about living up north.

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I hate black ice!

ARman

This is the type of post that having your location in your profile would be helpful. I don’t understand why some members are reluctant to do that.

The Bluegrass Region, to narrow it down more the Northwestern Outer Bluegrass Region. 1/2 mile from home is the Ohio River.


ARman

This morning @7 AM; it was still bad,and it had warmed up a little. Luckily I didn't have to go out this morning, I'm on medical leave until the 15th.

ARman

Here in the Yoop, the winter driving surface on most of our secondary and residential roads is a hard packed snow that forms ice. Our County Road Commission then run plows over this surface, which polishes it nicely. If you are lucky, sometimes they will apply some sand in an effort to improve traction. The main results of sanding are large sandy clots of snow stuck to your car, which fall off where you park. You can then track sand into your house, which improves traction indoors. Another feature of sanding is the hideous appearance of filthy snowbanks during spring thaw.
Black ice. White ice. Sandy ice. All pretty much same/same for me!

Years ago I flipped my Jeep Cherokee onto it's roof on black ice when I used to commute an hour to work each way.
It was 40°F in the early morning w/ snow piled on the side of the roads. What I didn't pay attention to was as the sun came up the temp. started dropping and soon enough all the snow melt on the road started freezing and next thing I know I'm sideways after just passing a car and heading to the shoulder.

Riding w/ the tow truck driver, I noticed I wasn't the only one who exited the road that morning.

My wife's uncle on the way to work stopped at the bottom of a hill because a couple cars were having trouble on black ice.

He gingerly coasted to a stop, got out and shut the door to his car.

The force of the door shutting was enough to start the car sliding sideways, right off the road, down an embankment and totaled the car.

Black ice don't play!