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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
actually I think the right answer is to build a large outdoor detention facility near the border

they've likely been living outside for an extended period of time before they invaded the country, so they can continue to live outside

diesel is expensive, and should be reserved for moving important stuff around the country - like food for us citizens

I guess the goal is to make life a living hell for those that invade us, perhaps to serve as a warning to others that treatment here isn't going to be a bed of roses - but deterrence aside, we should round them up and pen them like livestock until we can send them back

AZ tried the Tent City thing back around 1993, did not go over well back East. We could do something like that again and still keep sending some to their sanctuary cities as well. Diesel would be cheaper than feeding them here.
Perhaps a little of both, so the People in charge of the sanctuary homes are still involved, gotta spread out the problems they are creating.
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‘Hitler! Hitler!” the prisoners chanted to the TV cameras in protest. It was 4 February 2009. More than 200 Latino men in black-and-white striped uniforms, shackled to each other, were being marched towards an outdoor unit especially for “illegal alien” prisoners in Arizona’s infamous jail, Tent City.

The chants were directed at the Maricopa County sheriff, Joe Arpaio, who a few months before had called this outdoor jail close to downtown Phoenix – his own tough-on-crime creation – a “concentration camp” in a speech to political supporters at his local Italian-American club.

When asked about the comment by the Guardian in July, Arpaio brushed it off as a joke. “But even if it was a concentration camp, what difference does it make? I still survived. I still kept getting re-elected,” he said.

The jail survived too. For more than 20 years, Tent City stood within a larger jail compound in an industrial area 10 minutes south of downtown Phoenix. At its peak in the late 1990s, it comprised 82 Korean war-era military tents and housed 1,700 inmates. After 2009, it could hold up to 200 undocumented immigrants.

Despite multiple lawsuits from mistreated former prisoners, mounting public outrage and intense criticism from groups such as Amnesty International, which derided the facility as inhumane, overcrowded and dangerous, the outdoor prison remained open. Even the justice department accused Arpaio of racially profiling Latinos on his patrols and denying prisoners basic human rights in his jails.

But now, like Arpaio’s own legacy, Tent City’s tenure is about to come to an end, leaving many local city residents, civil rights groups and former inmates asking: how did it survive for so long?
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https://www.theguardian.com/ci...e-arpaio-immigration

How about a DMZ style border with Mexico?

Is that what the libs want?

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Originally posted by Edmond:
How about a DMZ style border with Mexico?

Is that what the libs want?

That's the part I don't understand. Why the liberals want them without going through the legal process.
The liberals are losing voters in their regions, are these the replacements?
It seems they want an open border, when asked about this they reference the "illegals are looking for a better life, we must help them".
It would be nice to have some specific questions answered from them, the liberals are up to something, they just won't say what.

Why setup facilities to hold/house and then send back? Why ship to sanctuary cities? Why aren't the illegals placed back into Mexico as soon as caught or shortly afterwards? I get the poke at sending to sanctuary cities but all that does is keep them in the US where we don't want them to be in the first place. Maybe I'm ignorant on the process. I just don't get the whole keeping them around whether at boarders or inland. Just turn them around and watch them walk back into Mexico.

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Originally posted by rangeme101:
Why setup facilities to hold/house and then send back? Why ship to sanctuary cities? Why aren't the illegals placed back into Mexico as soon as caught or shortly afterwards? I get the poke at sending to sanctuary cities but all that does is keep them in the US where we don't want them to be in the first place. Maybe I'm ignorant on the process. I just don't get the whole keeping them around whether at boarders or inland. Just turn them around and watch them walk back into Mexico.

Abbott cannot turn around illegals at the border because it is 100% federal jurisdiction, which is why he is shipping them to Democrat cities. From what I'm hearing, the "new" laws proposed would basically be exactly the same as the fed's laws; Texas state law mirroring existing federal law. And under federal law, illegals should be refused U.S. entry at the border, otherwise face penalties, at its harshest, 20 years in prison (U.S. Code § 1325, § 1326).

Unlike AZ, Gov. Abbott's strategy is to encode the U.S. Code into Texas law, not to create new laws out of thin air. And a new, more conservative Supreme Court is here now. This will be interesting to see...

SB-11, the bill in regards to illegal aliens, has passed a committee vote yesterday, 19 yeas, and 12 neas, voted along party lines. Today, it was reported favorably with no amendments added, I'm guessing the next step is another committee vote before it goes before a general vote. SB-7, the bill to prohibit Covid vaccine mandates had the same results as well. Things are moving ahead.

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xenophobic protests have erupted

Phobia is an irrational, excessive fear. It is neither to have fear of crime, drugs (they overlap), disease from living in crowded conditions with poor sanitation, etc.

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Originally posted by oddball:
SB-11, the bill in regards to illegal aliens, has passed a committee vote yesterday, 19 yeas, and 12 neas, voted along party lines. Today, it was reported favorably with no amendments added, I'm guessing the next step is another committee vote before it goes before a general vote. SB-7, the bill to prohibit Covid vaccine mandates had the same results as well. Things are moving ahead.

Two of the twelve mentioned why they voted against it, their thinking does not make sense to me.

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Sen. Hinojosa voted against the legislation after arguing it wasn’t a real solution to the problem of unauthorized immigration, adding it would swell county jail populations to record levels.

“I know what the purpose and the objective of what Senate Bill 11 is. But let’s talk about the practical costs,” he said. “Some of the effects of this legislation is not practical.”

Roberto Lopez, an advocacy manager with the Texas Civil Rights Project, said the legislation could cripple a migrant’s ability to apply for asylum, which is legal under federal and international law. Although a person arrested and charged under the proposed measure would eventually be transferred to federal custody to make their asylum claim, a conviction could affect their chances of being granted the protection.

“With that criminal charge, their chances of seeking asylum later on are going to be significantly reduced if not impossible,” he testified before the committee. “The process of charging someone through Operation Lone Star is faster than asylum.”

Sen. Blanco joined Hinojosa in opposing the bill, but it still advanced because of the Republicans’ three-to-two majority on the panel.

Senate Bill 4, the smuggling bill, could hit the floor of the Texas Senate floor as early as Thursday, Birdwell said.
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https://www.tpr.org/border-imm...d-border-legislation

If they voted against it, bus the invaders to their cities and ask the locals if this is really what they voted for.

The problem with the tent cities was that they were in the country of Maricopa which is the socialist/regressive enclave of Arizona.

Had it been anywhere else I’m convinced it would have been more successful.

Leave it to the libtards to protest what works but not offer alternative solutions.

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Originally posted by Edmond:
How about a DMZ style border with Mexico?

That would work. If the Texas DPS, AND the Texas National Guard were to set up some machine gun positions on our side of that wire, and lay down some suppressive fire, I can pretty much guarantee ZERO Illegal Alien Invaders would attempt to cross the border!

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
+1 for sending them to sanctuary cities.

As for having state and locals enforce immigration…. I’m split on that.

A) It really is a Federal issue.

B) Separating the police who enforce laws against violence from immigration does make sense.

We cannot have 10-20% of the population unable to report a crime without greatly increasing the predation on that populace - the Irish and Italian mafia developed because of that.

I agree...it's a Federal issue. Until the Feds abdicate their responsibilities, then it's forced to be a state issue, because the state money and infrastructure is impacted by the Feds inability or unwillingness to enforce the law.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by Edmond:
How about a DMZ style border with Mexico?

That would work. If the Texas DPS, AND the Texas National Guard were to set up some machine gun positions on our side of that wire, and lay down some suppressive fire, I can pretty much guarantee ZERO Illegal Alien Invaders would attempt to cross the border!

That's a very vast border to defend.
1250 miles vs the 155 mile Korean DMZ
Plus, things like the 83k acre Lake Falcon

Always was curious how the proposed border wall would work at Falcon, since the TX/Mex border effectively runs down the middle of it.

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Always was curious how the proposed border wall would work at Falcon, since the TX/Mex border effectively runs down the middle of it.

Gators, lots n lots of gators....

How about a sign pointing south saying “This Way For Authentic Mexican Cuisine”?

I like the idea of including the floating barrier as well since the border is the middle of the river. By the time they get feet dry they’re already on US soil.

I’m also in favor of letting the people solve the problem since the feds won’t. It’s fine to put a stop to this nonsense.

We have great laws and a working immigration system in place. It must be used.

Arizona should do the same but as a libtard run state it’s unlikely that will happen with our current governor and senators. Just one more reason to expel them at the next election.

The bills passed through the legislature and Gov. Abbott signed them yesterday.



Now illegal entry is Texas state law.

https://www.breitbart.com/bord...exico-a-state-crime/

great news to wake up to

anyone know if its retroactive?

Outstanding! The Texas governor and legislature moves past complaining about the open border and takes action. I’m grateful, because even up here, my family and I benefit from this action that will enhance the security of all of us in the country.

That is fantastic news!! The democrats have to be having a melt-down.