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Originally posted by sigfreund:
It’s truly impossible to know at this time how things will develop as far as armed confrontations. I believe much will depend upon how the ones that occur are handled by the authorities. If the people defending themselves are treated as the criminals, then the real criminals will be emboldened to escalate their acts.

Destroying faith in law enforcement is obviously part of their plan. Right now police can't engage a violent suspect without expecting to be arrested too and people can't engage looters without thinking they just might go to prison for it. We have already seen a huge number of LEOs either retire or leave their departments which worsens the conditions for citizens and lets the mob get bolder. At the start of all this a Minneapolis business owner shot a looter, was arrested, and returned later to find his business looted and destroyed. If police do continue to arrest and charge people for armed self defense or lethal self defense it won't be very long before people are choosing to defend themselves against both the mob and the police.

Local elected government have been using the police as a means of protecting "protesters" from the evil right wingers, having the police stand down until the right wingers get an advantage and then sending them in to arrest the right wingers while ignoring all the violence perpetrated by the left wingers.

It is about time for the police to come to terms with the times. The police need to understand they cannot arrest people for defending themselves against the mob - basically an undisciplined army - without losing all public trust.

The Albuquerque shooting at the statue a few months ago is another incident that comes to mind. A man being attacked by a mob, one of whom was armed with a skateboard and another with a knife, among others with hands and feet. The one with the knife was at contact range and said "I'm going to kill you." The man being attacked drew his pistol and put four shots into knife-guy. The police then (finally) moved in and arrested the shooter and detained the entire right wing militia that had assembled to protect the statue. They hadn't bothered to intervene before the fellow was attacked and pursued by the mob.

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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones:
Im baffled as to why this is...

Do they think that cracking down on rioters would be bad for their political careers as progressive twatwaffles or do they think that the violence and chaos helps the Demon-Rats overall?

Or is it as simple as they are just spineless cowards?

JB

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Originally posted by sdy:
DEM governors and DEM mayors - as guilty as the Antifa and BLM mobs that are looting, burning buildings and beating people.

I think it's something worse than that. I think they hope to gain from the revolution they think is upon them. They are choosing sides.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I think they hope to gain from the revolution they think is upon them.

Agree.

The history of National Socialist/Communist revolutions/coups have countless examples of people who thought they would benefit from the movements later being destroyed by the forces they helped unleash. They are uneducated and often (but not always) simply not too bright, but the brighter and more powerful they are today, the more likely they are to affirmatively believe that they will be able to control those forces.

If they knew anything about what had happened before they might be a little hesitant, but they’re certainly not going to learn any of that from the propagandists who taught them their present beliefs in school.

I am not at all trying to claim I would fare better than GS guy if in the same situation. Rather I'm reminded that I should do my absolute best to not insert myself into such a situation by choice unless I am certain to have a good exit or a whole lot of friends for backup. He literally had an angry mob with guns chasing him down and attacking him in the middle of the street.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I think they hope to gain from the revolution they think is upon them. They are choosing sides.

Agree.

This. A long time ago I watched a tame (by today’s standards) movie called Dr. Zhivago. It portrayed the Russian communist revolution for what it was - those who were communist and those who were not. The communists were rightly portrayed as brutal remorseless killers - as they were.

We keep comparing the left to the brownshirts and rise of the National Socialist party in Germany during the 20s and 30s - while accurate, we are in the early stages much closer to the anarchy and chaos the Lenin and others orchestrated to drive the fall of the Czar...and later repeated in Cambodia, China (Cultural revolution), etc.

For the democratic leaders, this is about power not ideology.. and they are gambling this takes power away from one group and gives it them. They are playing with fire and may literally loses their lives and livelihood over this...but right now they are too drunk on success to wake up or make a change.

There is no more a question of “when will civil war come?”. Sadly Civil War is here compliments of the left and “Democrats” - a term I use loosely.

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Originally posted by sooma:
BB61, non of us were actual mall security, I should have said "acting like non paid mall security" to be clear.

That is what I remember. I can’t remember if it was store owners in the strip mall or people my friend’s family had help or a combination. In any event, he said it worked.

As a side note, at the time or shortly thereafter, his mom was the president of the Korean Business Association in LA and then the co-chair of the LA committee during the Korean/Japan 2002 FIFA World Cup. I still have a hat he gave me from the 2002 World Cup.

Don Lemon of CNN is worried about the rioting:

“The rioting has to stop... it’s showing up in the polling, it’s showing up in focus groups.”

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oh my.

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Originally posted by sooma:

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Originally posted by smlsig:
Like the Koreans did in the LA riots...

I was one of those

Interesting fact, one of the roof Koreans, Ken Lee is the reason the 9th Circuit has swung to the conservative side and a big reason CA mag restriction got overturned. A true Trump judge.

I would like to read more about Ken Lee and the 9th.
Any good references?

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Originally posted by sdy:
Don Lemon of CNN is worried about the rioting:

“The rioting has to stop... it’s showing up in the polling, it’s showing up in focus groups.”

Really? He said that?

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by sdy:
Don Lemon of CNN is worried about the rioting:

“The rioting has to stop... it’s showing up in the polling, it’s showing up in focus groups.”

Really? He said that?

Here is the video...
https://twitter.com/JohnWMarxI.../1298596666434441217

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Originally posted by darthfuster:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
As I said last night, the people out there are too young.

They are young because only the young can be whipped up to outrage so easily and with such wild-eyed volatility. They are easy to manipulate with their youthful arrogance and limited perspicacity. They need only have their minds poisoned and put into mobs where they feel safe and strong. Amp up the emotion and voila!.....instant Bolshevik revolution. The real Marxist revolutionaries are safe behind the lines pulling strings and writing checks.

This is a valid perspective, the real power is always hiding in the shadows, using the fools to do their dirty work, it's all part of the process.

Whomever is funding BLM/Antifa, it may be that they are funding politicians that support the agenda the local and state governments, those willing to allow the riots to continue unabated. Portland, Seattle, Kenosha, for whatever reason, they, politicians, are the ones that need to be tarred and feathered. These officials purposely allowing the movement has been part of the long term goal of the Architects of Anarchy. The WI Governor turning down federal aid should be his undoing. You would think even D and R can come together when civil unrest is getting people killed and tearing apart cities. The actions in WI at the grassroots political level, congress and house in that state will let you know, WI governor should be impeached if allowed.

So, will GSG be another turning point, should we call it a war, it sure seems like a war, maybe it's time to call it one. Will GSG cause it to spread, faster, farther to more cities aka the George Floyd movement. Imagine it will be used by these groups to further enrage people to rail against the machine, come to the protest armed, could it be that the ones shot were planned for, eventual sacrifices to the cause, reasons to move it up to the next level?

The call to be proactive in your own security are very valid, no matter where you live, again, that was the goal, everyone, everywhere, in fear, to elicit change....

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Originally posted by braillediver:
They don't even put their phones down.

Depraved indifference.

Not worried about the people. Or the property, or the businesses. Just worried about the polling and the election.

Yeah, you know when even that mentally ill fraud gets within the vicinity of a clue, a thing is absolutely true, because if there's any way at all for that fuckstick to deny reality, he'll find the way to do so.

Ol' Don knows what's going to happen in 11 weeks. Worried, you pathetic shill? Well, you damn well should be worried.

Democrats honestly have the same mindset as the rioters. They think they can do anything they want and there will be no consequences. Well, Don is waking up to the reality that's not true.

This is an expected result of government officials letting the animals run wild. They are derelict in their duty and may also be encouraging this for political gain too. They need to be careful what they wish for.
This is also a demonstration of why you stay away from stupid people doing stupid things. I can see people getting hurt or killed by friendly fire in these situations easily too.
While I sympathize with the ones guarding the stores, this is much like coming to the rescue of strangers when you don't have unavoidable, innocent exposure and a direct relationship and knowledge of the whole situation.

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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones:
Im baffled as to why this is...

Do they think that cracking down on rioters would be bad for their political careers as progressive twatwaffles or do they think that the violence and chaos helps the Demon-Rats overall?

Come on man. We've seen this play out now for a couple years. These moron politicians claim that all this is fueled by Trump's heartless and illegal approach to governance, so they're on the side of 'right' (i.e. the protesters who are actually rioters). Then the media spins any efforts or attempts by Trump and the Fed's to putting an end to this as being proof of Trump the dictator/authoritarian, proving the Dem politicians right. This is all a coordinated agenda by the Dem's and the media to try and turn enough people against Trump for them to win in November. I personally hope Trump wins in a landslide and local voters completely gut all these local politicians in the aftermath.

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Originally posted by Ackks:
Democrats honestly have the same mindset as the rioters. They think they can do anything they want and there will be no consequences. Well, Don is waking up to the reality that's not true.

No he's not. Lemon is too stupid to wake up to anything. He has no moral compass or sense of right and wrong. He's just worried the optics might move people to vote 'incorrectly' for Trump, and as a good bought and paid for DNC supporter, he can't have that. Lemon doesn't give a rat's ass if the filth on the streets continue to burn the entire country to the ground.

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Originally posted by sdy:
Don Lemon of CNN is worried about the rioting:

“The rioting has to stop... it’s showing up in the polling, it’s showing up in focus groups.”

Wow. One of the dominant media leftists finally caught a glimmer of a glue. If ever something deserved the banner "BREAKING NEWS," this certainly would be it.

Unfortunately, for ol' Don and his ilk: I think the GOAC (glimmer of a clue--I just made it up) came far too late. You see: The leftists purposely let this nonsense go on--even encouraged it, because: 1. They didn't want to lose support from the extreme left and 2. They figured destabilization would help them come November.

Well, it's turning out #2 is going to backfire on them. Surprise!

And if they start cracking-down now, #1 will certainly happen.

Oops!

Somewhere I saw it reported the green shirt guy had/has EMT training and actually ran back to administer aid to one of the people shot. Before being run off again.

That kid had major stones for sure to stand in the breech like that.