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The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States

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January 30, 2023, 11:43 PM
Sig2340
The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
I kept digging on this one…found this, goes into more detail.
Opinion | The Medics Are Also to Blame for Tyre Nichols’ Death

The video also shows EMS workers failing to render what we call the “standard of care” for trauma patients. Based on national standards and Tennessee state EMS protocols, this consists of, at minimum, assessing the victim’s airway, breathing and vital signs, and in the setting of head trauma, immobilizing the victim’s spine and neck and applying oxygen to prevent brain damage. In recent days, two Memphis Fire Department EMTs on the scene were released of their duty pending an agency investigation. It has not been confirmed if these were the two medics seen in the video

There are two sections here talking about providing oxygen and the necessity of speedy transport.

Based on the released footage, the medics on the scene of Tyre Nichols’ assault appeared to squander what could have amounted to precious time for the victim to receive care at a trauma center. While the definitive cause of death is pending the final forensic examination (autopsy) and toxicology reports, the combination of delay in delivering care, specifically oxygen, and the delay in transport may have contributed significantly to the death of this young man.



I wonder if the paramedics were terrified of the cops or if the cops said “Hold back, or else.”





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
January 31, 2023, 12:01 AM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Breaking News: all members of this forum have been charged in the death of Saint Tyre of Nichols

I didn't do it!

Oh, wait, that's what I'm being charged with.


I have an alibi. I was at a cross burning on the other side of town.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 31, 2023, 01:24 AM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
I have an alibi. I was at a cross burning on the other side of town.


Yeah, well, if you were wearing your regulation head appliance, nobody would know that.


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January 31, 2023, 02:19 AM
rock185
FWIW, I spent most of my adult working life in police work. We did sometimes have fire stage before we made the scene safe. But once we had fire come in, I have never in any situation seen them hesitate in providing immediate medical attention to any injured person.

If the fire EMTs did not immediately begin assessing the injured person, treat them on scene to the best of their ability and arrange emergency transport, I can understand why their chain of command might take the action they did. Now the man might have died anyway, but that doesn't change the EMT's duty at the scene...


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January 31, 2023, 08:24 AM
CPD SIG
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Breaking News: all members of this forum have been charged in the death of Saint Tyre of Nichols


I'm a male white cop....
I'm gonna get the electric chair! Eek


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January 31, 2023, 08:53 AM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
I have an alibi. I was at a cross burning on the other side of town.


Yeah, well, if you were wearing your regulation head appliance, nobody would know that.


You can tell it's me by the eye patch.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 31, 2023, 10:11 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:
2 Shelby County deputies placed on leave following Tyre Nichols death

The story doesn't identify who they are. That's probably a good thing.
If they did nothing wrong... their careers would probably be destroyed anyway.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
January 31, 2023, 10:19 AM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Breaking News: all members of this forum have been charged in the death of Saint Tyre of Nichols

I didn't do it!

Oh, wait, that's what I'm being charged with.


I have an alibi. I was at a cross burning on the other side of town.


Did ya remember to wash up afterward?





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
January 31, 2023, 12:44 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
I'm a male white cop....
I'm gonna get the electric chair! Eek

Yes, but it will be powered by solar panels. So there is that.
January 31, 2023, 02:14 PM
copaup
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:
Has the romantic relationships between the deceased and any of the MPD who administered the beating been fully explored ? Like one of the cops wife/girlfriend/ sister was involved with him ?


Completely untrue. No prior relationship exists.
January 31, 2023, 06:58 PM
CPD SIG
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
I'm a male white cop....
I'm gonna get the electric chair! Eek

Yes, but it will be powered by solar panels. So there is that.


GREAT!
Do,you know how long it's going to take to electrocute me with solar power?!?!
Hell, I'll die before they kill me. Wink


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"When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!"

“What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy
January 31, 2023, 07:16 PM
YooperSigs
But you could get a nasty burn!


End of Earth: 2 Miles
Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles
February 01, 2023, 10:53 AM
chellim1
“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, police are criminals, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy our economy ”
– Chris Hedges



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
February 01, 2023, 04:12 PM
flashguy
^^^^^ But we still have SF, chellim!

flashguy




Texan by choice, not accident of birth
February 01, 2023, 06:39 PM
chellim1
Yep... we do.
My daughter sent me the quote.
I thought it kind of fit in the thread "The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States"
The riots are kind of a symptom.
I do think the greatest threat to this country is from within.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
February 01, 2023, 08:39 PM
P220 Smudge
That’s a powerful quote, and a stark perspective on the predicament we find ourselves in.


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February 02, 2023, 08:35 PM
Jupiter
I'm sure city leader scumbags are celebrating tonight. Roll Eyes

MPD officer shot, man shot and killed at White Station Library, police say


https://www.fox13memphis.com/n...XOZC3RBGH4RRTTXSH5Y/


Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell

February 08, 2023, 07:56 AM
Ripley
quote:
Originally posted by copaup:
quote:
Originally posted by ElToro:
Has the romantic relationships between the deceased and any of the MPD who administered the beating been fully explored ? Like one of the cops wife/girlfriend/ sister was involved with him ?


Completely untrue. No prior relationship exists.




Document Shows Former Memphis Police Officer Took Photos of Badly Beaten Tyre Nichols and Texted Them to ‘Female Acquaintance’


One of the former Memphis Police officers charged in last month’s brutal beating death of Tyre Nichols used his personal smartphone to take photos of the handcuffed and bloodied black man, according to records released on Tuesday.

The latest revelations shine the spotlight back on rumors being investigated by The Tennessee Star that Officer Demetrius Haley and his fellow Scorpion Unit law enforcement colleagues were targeting Nichols because of a relationship he allegedly had with Haley’s ex-wife.

“On [Haley’s] personal cell phone, [Haley] took two photographs while standing in front of the obviously injured subject after he was handcuffed,” states the document obtained through media public records requests. “[Haley] admitted [he] shared the photo in a text message with five people; one civilian employee, two MPD officers, and one female acquaintance.”...



Could be why, despite utterly dominating news coverage for many days, this story has disappeared.




Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.
February 08, 2023, 08:05 AM
dking271
quote:
“On [Haley’s] personal cell phone, [Haley] took two photographs while standing in front of the obviously injured subject after he was handcuffed,” states the document obtained through media public records requests. “[Haley] admitted [he] shared the photo in a text message with five people; one civilian employee, two MPD officers, and one female acquaintance.”...


I’m no Sherlock Holmes but the math doesn’t add up, but then again it may be Memphis math.


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February 08, 2023, 02:16 PM
jsbcody
Or he took the photos to brag about it, like the dipshit thug he apparently is. Now it is coming out that all 5 officers either didn't activate or TOOK OFF their body worn cameras prior to the beating.

Going to call it as I see it and have heard from a couple former Memphis Officers:
1. Hiring people (or folks Wink) that shouldn't have been hired.
2. Retention: retaining officers, especially those who check certain box(es), who would have been fired a few years ago for bad behavior.
3. Supervision: Either it is bad or non-existent. You think this is the first beating they did? No way. More will come out and there will be a pattern of body worn cameras not being turned on or taken off. In the supervisor area, there are a lot of sergeants and lieutenants (usually street level supervisors) who have or are retiring (in my small 40 officer agency, three experienced sergeants will retire between April and August this year). Those positions will be filled with new supervisors, some of whom check certain box(es), which will result in bad supervisors supervising bad officers.

I left training out of the above because there is NO training that says to kick a suspect in the head (unless lethal force is needed), hit a suspect in the head with a baton or ASP (unless lethal force is needed), or two officers holding a suspect up while a third officer beats him.