The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States
I say leave it to the citizenry ----- no penalty/no bag limit to shoot all miscreants. It will end.
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May 16, 2021, 11:13 AM
gearhounds
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Originally posted by sgalczyn: I say leave it to the citizenry ----- no penalty/no bag limit to shoot all miscreants. It will end.
Remember Creepy Joe's recent ravings that white supremacy and domestic terrorism. Just don't hang around for pictures, cover your face, and don't drive there. They'll be looking for "violent domestic terrorists" to crucify and make poster children for gun control.
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May 16, 2021, 12:10 PM
MikeinNC
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Originally posted by gearhounds:
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Originally posted by sgalczyn: I say leave it to the citizenry ----- no penalty/no bag limit to shoot all miscreants. It will end.
Remember Creepy Joe's recent ravings that white supremacy and domestic terrorism. Just don't hang around for pictures, cover your face, and don't drive there. They'll be looking for "violent domestic terrorists" to crucify and make poster children for gun control.
Use a shotgun man, use a shotgun.
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Instead of state and local police departments, a national police force may soon be the new reality of law enforcement in America. Sure, the idea may have seemed far-fetched this time last year. But now, discussions of abolishing or defunding law enforcement agencies are becoming increasingly mainstream—even despite some of the catastrophic political failures.
Several cities have tried their political best at defunding efforts. But quickly found out the hard way that knee-jerk political moves led to utter failure. Politicians from Minneapolis to New York, who vocally and radically moved to defund their police department ever-so-quietly tried to reverse their failed attempts at “re-imagining” policing in 2021. And while violent crime rates continue to soar, many politicians avoided calling attention to themselves as they replacing millions backs into the police budgets.
But as they say, the proverbial train has left the station—and America has been introduced to the idea of defunding and a national police force of some kind or another.
And despite the political mess, and skyrocketing crime rates, a recent survey indicated that nonetheless, 28% of Americans are already in favor of a national police department.
Here’s how the continued defunding and undermining of local law enforcement may move beyond “re-imagining” to reality—and some of the political excuses that are likely to follow as well…
Step 1: Exploiting “lack of trust in the community”
The concept that the police must “reform” because the community doesn’t trust them is a joke. But unfortunately, it’s no laughing matter.
Ironically, while critics claim the proverbial “community” does not trust their local law enforcement agency, law enforcement overall has achieved a trust level well above almost every other profession, even according to more than 70% among African Americans.
Meanwhile, at rather hypocritically, the level of public trust regarding politicians and the media are in the proverbial gutter. Yet “trust” among the community—which includes criminals by the way—is such a vague and deceptive metric. And it seems everyone from police chiefs to so-called leaders of national police organizations are accepting lack of trust as a fact.
Indeed, the idea of “building” trust is a powerful weapon against law enforcement because there is no amount of break dancing, lip syncing or “community” policing that can overcome the liars that continue to drive a wedge between the police and the public.
Step 2: Promoting propaganda and “insta-ganda”
There isn’t enough time in the day for us to fight back from the volume of lies and deception being told about law enforcement. From the media peddling the idea that “black women die every day at the hands of the police,” to Michelle Obama telling the world she’s scared that police will overcome the Secret Service and murder her daughters while driving a car—there is no end to the nonsense and the propaganda.
Even worse, lies are becoming beliefs faster than we can pick up our cellphones. But let’s be clear: the law enforcement profession today is better than it has ever been. But we live in a world where facts, truth, and reality hardly stand a chance against memes and insta-ganda.
Step 3: Making the job impossible
Politicians found out in the 2020 election that any actual talk about abolishing the police is not popular with the public. But they’ve since figured out ways around that.
They are simply making the job impossible, which will essentially put the profession on a path to abolish itself. While the “anti-police” sentiment is driving cops away in record numbers, ending qualified immunity will seal the deal. If cops are placed in a position to do everything right but still face paying out millions in lawsuits, there will be no cops left. The propaganda machine has been working overtime on this issue and it has worked.
Step 4: Creating chaos—while hiding the reality of skyrocketing crime
All of the above has left the country in a state of chaos. But here’s the reality: violent crime had the largest one-year spike on record in 2020. Although, it seems 2021 will break that record.
Meanwhile, not a day goes by without riots or protests and ambushes against cops are tracking to be the highest in history this year. Combine that with recent economic decline, and a perfect storm is indeed approaching on the horizon.
Step 5: Promoting public fear
For the first time, the media is beginning to turn their attention to the rise in crime. And this is not because they all of a sudden want law and order. It’s being done to create a climate of public fear. Ironically, the rise in crime followed all of the so called necessary reform and defunding efforts. But to the media and the politicians, this will be the fault of the cops—because in case you forgot, all cops are “racist” cops and permitting thousands of young blacks to be murdered in the streets by criminals, while killing “black women” every day according to at least one prominent national media platform.
Step 6: Creating a false sense of legitimacy
It will take more than sleazy politicians and the dishonest media to convince the public that local law enforcement is incapable of protecting their citizens. It will take an endorsement of a few key individuals and organizations. Unfortunately, this seems well underway…
In 2015, the Department of Justice launched the “National Initiative for Building Community Trust and Justice” that gave federal funding to six voluntary agencies in exchange for their adoption of federal law enforcement practices. That same year, Al Sharpton called for placing American Law Enforcement under the Department of Justice.
While you may be looking for someone with legitimacy, just this week, Miami Police Chief Art Acevedo, who also serves as the president of the Major Cities Chiefs Association. Chief Acevedo said that the United States has “probably the most inefficient and ineffective policing model in the free world” when referring the “tens of thousands of police departments across the nation.”
While the comment is certainly self-righteous for a major city chief to say, the rest of us should take note that he is likely an unwilling participant in legitimizing and “imagining” a national model of policing.
Step 7: Selling the idea that somehow, the federal government can help
With the high crime and the chaos and of course all the racist, white supremacist cops, it seems only the federal government can save the day by taking control of law enforcement. After all, they are here to help us live better lives right? The selling of this absurd idea will likely ramp up heavily in the 2022 election cycle.
Take Action
We are demanding that police organizations everywhere—including the International Association Chiefs of Police, The Fraternal Order of Police—to stand up and speak out. And we can only encourage citizens to recognize how woke-minded politicians have already failed, but are still trying to defund and re-imagine policing right before our eyes.
Speak out for justice, law, and order—and let your opinion be heard.
America is a nation that should be for the people, by the people—and never what the government and politicians tell us it should be, especially when they’ve already failed us…
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May 16, 2021, 06:43 PM
ersatzknarf
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Originally posted by pulicords:
When laws mean nothing, the word "illegal" is meaningless. Police officers' have as much of a right to "strike", as these activists have to shut down thoroughfares, assault those who complain about it, loot and burn buildings. If it's not a crime anymore to commit robbery, assault, even murder, what's to stop those opposing such acts from targeting those who commit such acts? This isn't a "slippery slope", so much as a cliff.
Found this post to be quite profound.
We are very close to the precipice.
May 16, 2021, 07:49 PM
Lefty Sig
^^^^ Except the leftists politicians are letting rioters, arsonists, and violent criminals off with no prosecution, while throwing the book at anyone who defends themselves.
Target the criminals and you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
May 17, 2021, 12:14 AM
darthfuster
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Originally posted by Lefty Sig: ^^^^ Except the leftists politicians are letting rioters, arsonists, and violent criminals off with no prosecution, while throwing the book at anyone who defends themselves.
Target the criminals and you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
Not if the police strike and refuse to arrest. There's not a stuffed suit prosecutor in the country tough enough to drag a citizen or the plural full of righteous indignation in to be tried. No. The police is where the rubber meets the road. Defund or demoralize them enough and it's full blown anarchy. That's when ANTIFA would disappear like a fart in the wind.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
May 17, 2021, 12:49 AM
Il Cattivo
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While the comment is certainly self-righteous for a major city chief to say, the rest of us should take note that he is likely an unwilling participant in legitimizing and “imagining” a national model of policing.
Not unwilling at all - that slime sees all this stuff as the royal road to making it to some "top" job while neatly bypassing his limitations and failures. We've already seen his nonsense in a couple of cities in Texas and, with the recent horse manure in Plano, I for one am grateful to know he's in another state. Now all we need is for him to get a job in Massacheusetts or someplace where he won't bother honest cops and other decent people.
May 18, 2021, 04:42 PM
chongosuerte
That case in Elizabeth City, North Carolina came back from the District Attorney as justified.
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May 18, 2021, 05:26 PM
MikeinNC
I heard that today, my friend who works there told me today the locals weren’t gonna be happy at all cause ol boy caught one in the back of the head. I was waiting to pick up my kid from school and I heard the liberals all Monday morning quarter backing it.
One guy said that the deputy shouldn’t have gotten in front of the car- therefore there would have been no use of force.....they could have let him drive away from a warrant service and a search warrant....and caught him later
Jeeeshhhhh, it’s not the cops fault ole boy tried to run them over. And yeah in my book it’s fine to shoot someone in the back if he’s trying to run over my friends with a car.
I hope the Walmart boarded their windows last night, cause I’m sure the weather is showing a high percentage of riot tonight in E-CityThis message has been edited. Last edited by: MikeinNC,
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May 18, 2021, 09:24 PM
snoris
There's not a shred of Spandex or a 60-inch flat screen in any Wal-Mart near that county that's safe tonight.
May 19, 2021, 05:35 AM
Mars_Attacks
The Atlanta Police Chief just said they we can not arrest our way out of crime. He just actually said that this morning.
Murder is up 50% and violent crime is up 60%.
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May 19, 2021, 07:09 AM
MikeinNC
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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks: The Atlanta Police Chief just said they we can not arrest our way out of crime.
You are fucked.
The last Chief I worked under said the same thing. As a street cop I would disagree, if you lock them up (and they get good high bonds) you have created a safer society.
“You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020
“ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025
May 19, 2021, 07:11 AM
wcb6092
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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks: The Atlanta Police Chief just said they we can not arrest our way out of crime. He just actually said that this morning.
Murder is up 50% and violent crime is up 60%.
So what is their backup plan? Give space to destroy?
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May 19, 2021, 07:56 AM
Mars_Attacks
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Originally posted by wcb6092:
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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks: The Atlanta Police Chief just said they we can not arrest our way out of crime. He just actually said that this morning.
Murder is up 50% and violent crime is up 60%.
So what is their backup plan? Give space to destroy?
Mayor Rock Bottoms implemented THAT plan last year and now here we are. 400 police walked off the job and the ones left are doing nothing because every time they arrest someone, they get charged with a crime.
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May 19, 2021, 08:01 AM
lastmanstanding
This is what the city of Minneapolis leftist polices have wrought. Crime and gang wars are out of control. I can guarantee you these aren't cc permit holders turning the city into a shooting gallery. Where's BLM looting and rioting over this? Why aren't they rooting out and burning down gang houses? Buehler? Buehler?
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Sadness and anger in Minneapolis as the community rallies around the families of three kids who are victims of gun violence.
Ten-year-old Ladavionne Garrett Jr., 9-year-old Trinity Ottoson-Smith, and, just Monday night, 6-year-old Aniya Allen were all shot in the city.
Dozens of people gathered at North Memorial Health Hospital Tuesday night to pray for peace and stop to the violence.
"It just saddens me man that it has come to this where our children are not safe," Antri Cease, Aniya's grandfather, said.
"We have three babies that are fighting for their lives that they haven't even lived yet," Rev. Brian Herron, of Zion Baptist Church, said.
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS heard from the family of Aniya who police say was shot in the head while she was riding in a car Monday night. It happened near 35th and Penn avenues.
She's the third child in just over two weeks to be caught in the crossfire in Minneapolis.
The community is now praying for healing and for change, saying this is unacceptable.
"I never in a million years would've thought my daughter would be the one that this has happened to," Raishawn Smith said.
"We're calling on people to be more vigilant about reporting what they're hearing, reporting what they're seeing, it's not snitching, it's saving lives," Herron said.
As of early Wednesday, no arrests had yet been made in any of these shooting incidents.
Families are calling for justice and begging whoever did this to turn themselves in.
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May 19, 2021, 08:52 AM
Fed161
George Soros supported cop hating Philadelphia DA "Let 'em Loose Larry Krasner" won reelection by a 2 to 1 margin last night. Crime and murder is way up in Philadelphia. The citizens of Philadelphia deserve the crime that they just voted for. You want this - well your going to get it.
May 19, 2021, 09:01 AM
18DAI
Those three poor dead children were not "...victims of gun violence...". They were victims of other murderous blacks. As are most of the homicides committed nation wide.
But we mustn't talk about that. It destroys the narrative. Regards 18DAI
7+1 Rounds of hope and change
May 19, 2021, 01:13 PM
SigLaw
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Originally posted by Fed161: George Soros supported cop hating Philadelphia DA "Let 'em Loose Larry Krasner" won reelection by a 2 to 1 margin last night. Crime and murder is way up in Philadelphia. The citizens of Philadelphia deserve the crime that they just voted for. You want this - well your going to get it.
