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The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States

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April 28, 2021, 07:09 AM
MikeinNC
The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
^^^^^ "internationally"? Maybe you meant "intentionally"?

flashguy


Yeah, stroke....I’ll fix it.

/drift



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April 28, 2021, 07:17 AM
Mars_Attacks
These assholes aren't going to stop until crime is just considered a part of a certain demographic's culture.


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April 28, 2021, 07:22 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:

Jessica Beauvais could be seen taking shots of vodka and saying "fuck the police" just hours before plowing into 43-year-old NYPD Highway Officer Anastasios Tsakos, 43, on the Long Island Expressway around 2am Tuesday morning while driving her Volkswagen on a suspended license.
Prayers for the family that Officer Tsakos leaves behind. I am in awe of the service that these LEOs give for us.

Minimum sentence for this cop killer should be life without the possibility of parole.



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April 28, 2021, 08:48 AM
lastmanstanding
Jessica Beauvais will be found suffering from the disease of alcoholism and thereby cannot be held responsible for her actions. The court will see she gets the help she needs and deserves. Next.


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April 28, 2021, 08:55 AM
BOATTRASH1
Manslaughter? Why not first degree murder and add hate crime charges. Put a bullet in that bitches head and be done with it.
April 28, 2021, 09:37 AM
c1steve
Second degree murder is how I would rate it. Might be first degree, but that would be hard to prove.


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April 28, 2021, 10:22 AM
pulicords
quote:
Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
These assholes aren't going to stop until crime is just considered a part of a certain demographic's culture.


It already IS part of some subcultures. The real problem is this: Do we accept it as part of our AMERICAN CULTURE??? When you have people openly claiming that knife fights are just rites of passage, they're spreading the message (of acceptance) like a disease. If tolerated, this acceptance of criminality, brutality, and violence will become the new "norm" everywhere.


"I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."
April 28, 2021, 11:19 AM
Graniteguy
She will plea down to manslaughter with 10-15 years. Back on the street killing people before she turns 50.
April 28, 2021, 11:28 AM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by pulicords:
quote:
Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
These assholes aren't going to stop until crime is just considered a part of a certain demographic's culture.


It already IS part of some subcultures. The real problem is this: Do we accept it as part of our AMERICAN CULTURE??? When you have people openly claiming that knife fights are just rites of passage, they're spreading the message (of acceptance) like a disease. If tolerated, this acceptance of criminality, brutality, and violence will become the new "norm" everywhere.

Was going to say the same. There exists a culture where predatory and demonstrative actions are celebrated and accepted. To be obnoxious, willfully ignorant and confrontational is perfectly acceptable forms of behavior. Human history has shown such 'cultures', while having a knack for survivalism, are also short in life-span. There are some loud voices with visible platforms attempting to validate that such behavior is mainstream and normal, and shouldn't be questioned or, criticized.
April 28, 2021, 12:58 PM
Icabod
quote:
Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
These assholes aren't going to stop until crime is just considered a part of a certain demographic's culture.


Sadly,some already do:
“ Teenagers have been having fights including fights involving knives for eons. We do not need police to address these situations by showing up to the scene & using a weapon against one of the teenagers. Y’all need help. I mean that sincerely.“



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April 28, 2021, 01:16 PM
RichardC
What's wrong with this scene? Yes, that's right. Not diverse.
Cool kicks, though.




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April 28, 2021, 11:21 PM
ElToro
quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
What's wrong with this scene? Yes, that's right. Not diverse.
Cool kicks, though.



Would have been a totally different movie if officer Krupke had just greased a handful of Jets and Sharks.

But Natalie wood and Rita Morena in their prime. Wow.
April 29, 2021, 12:32 AM
nhtagmember
At one time cop killers got the death penalty

Perfect example of why we need to bring it back and use it
April 29, 2021, 02:46 AM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by pulicords:
If tolerated, this acceptance of criminality, brutality, and violence will become the new "norm" everywhere.
And if that does indeed happen, a new norm will also develop with it....that norm being vigilantes eliminating this garbage with extreme prejudice. We're headed down a road that only leads to chaos and violence across the board.


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April 29, 2021, 06:49 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
that norm being vigilantes eliminating this garbage with extreme prejudice.


I’m not sure I agree because when the authorities want to take effective action they are fully capable of doing so, as witnessed by the post 6 January events. I do find it an interesting coincidence, though, that you mention vigilante action about the same time an article appeared in the newspaper of my small town, and which has been in continuous publication since the 19th century. One feature of the paper in recent times has been to reprint interesting articles from the past, and a current one described the November 1879 lynching of two bad men who were taken from the jail at gunpoint and hanged.




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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner.
April 29, 2021, 07:01 AM
tgtshuter
quote:
Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
Manslaughter? Why not first degree murder and add hate crime charges. Put a bullet in that bitches head and be done with it.


Looks like her actions fit the bill for a hate crime, with the unfortunate exception that the races need to be reversed for there to be any prosecution. /sarcasm
April 29, 2021, 11:59 AM
chongosuerte
This NC shooting in Elizabeth City that sounded bad initially has a little more context finally. Prosecutor said the decedant struck two deputies with his car before they shot. Judge has refused to release the body camera footage for now, District Attorney has told the state to get their nose out of his business and let him do his job basically. Refreshing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...9yg9?ocid=uxbndlbing

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District Attorney Andrew Womble, who viewed the body camera videos, told the judge that he disagreed with a characterization by an attorney for Brown’s family that Brown did not try to drive away until deputies opened fire. Womble said the video shows that Brown’s car made “contact” with law enforcement twice before shots could be heard on the video.

“As it backs up, it does make contact with law enforcement officers,” he said, adding that the car stops again. “The next movement of the car is forward. It is in the direction of law enforcement and makes contact with law enforcement. It is then and only then that you hear shots.”


Womble said that officers shouted commands and tried to open a car door before any shots were fired.



On an unrelated and very sad note, two NC deputies were killed on the opposite end of the state from that last night. They went for a "Check welfare" call and both were shot, one remaining inside the home where the suspect was barricaded and shooting at officers:

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/lo...42JF6TOHS2WBNYLDUJU/

quote:
WATAUGA COUNTY, N.C. — Two deputies were killed and three other people, including the suspected gunman, were found dead after a 13-hour standoff in Boone, the Watauga County sheriff said on Thursday.

Authorities said the two deputies died in the shooting that prompted a daylong standoff Wednesday that dragged into the night with law enforcement officers surrounding a home.





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April 29, 2021, 12:35 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by chongosuerte:

On an unrelated and very sad note, two NC deputies were killed on the opposite end of the state from that last night. They went for a "Check welfare" call and both were shot, one remaining inside the home where the suspect was barricaded and shooting at officers:

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/lo...42JF6TOHS2WBNYLDUJU/

quote:
WATAUGA COUNTY, N.C. — Two deputies were killed and three other people, including the suspected gunman, were found dead after a 13-hour standoff in Boone, the Watauga County sheriff said on Thursday.

Authorities said the two deputies died in the shooting that prompted a daylong standoff Wednesday that dragged into the night with law enforcement officers surrounding a home.


Apparently, if the backstory that I heard is true, the shooter had just killed his parents, and then he killed the officers when they performed the welfare check.

Pretty awful scene.


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April 29, 2021, 12:40 PM
YooperSigs
Seems clear to me that all the crap now ongoing in our country is pushing people who were already unstable into violence. Stay safe, LEOs!


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May 01, 2021, 03:27 PM
wcb6092
D.C. attorney general offers to seal records of more than 200 arrested during George Floyd protests

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

The office of D.C. Attorney General Karl A. Racine said that it would offer to seal the arrest records of roughly 220 people detained for violating curfew orders in June during protests over the police killing of George Floyd.

Racine, a Democrat, in his announcement Thursday, said his office would send letters about the offer to those arrested in June 2020 in Washington, D.C., according to The Washington Post.

Those who receive the letter already know they are not being prosecuted, and an affirmative response to the offer will result in the office filing a motion to seal the person's records.

The attorney general's office prosecuted only five people. Eighty others were arrested in the protests but are ineligible for the offer because they may have had previous arrest records.

"We are exercising our discretion not to prosecute you based upon an evaluation of the specific facts of your case and your criminal history, or lack thereof," reads a sample letter, the newspaper reports. "Please note that should you be rearrested for this offense – or any other offense – OAG may decide to prosecute you for that offense and/or oppose the sealing of your arrest."

A spokesperson for the attorney general said the office wanted to help make the process easier for those arrested to seal their records.

The spokesperson also said the office declined to prosecute the "vast majority" of protesters who were arrested in early June 2020 for violating the mayor’s curfew order "while peacefully protesting in the District."


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