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April 12, 2021, 11:36 AM
mbinky
The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States
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Watch Live: Social Unrest Erupts After Police Killing Of Man In Minnesota


Looks like spring training has started....
April 12, 2021, 12:35 PM
Ronin1069
- Ugh -

Police: Minnesota officer meant to draw Taser, not handgun


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April 12, 2021, 12:44 PM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
- Ugh -

Police: Minnesota officer meant to draw Taser, not handgun


From the article linked above:

"Gannon said at a news conference that the officer made a mistake, and he released body camera footage from the officer who fired. The footage showed three officers around a stopped car. When another officer attempts to handcuff Wright, a struggle ensues. The officer is heard shouting “Taser!” several times before firing her weapon."
April 12, 2021, 01:03 PM
BamaJeepster
Media trying to tell the chief that the riot was not a riot. At least he didn't cower and apologize.

That said - doesn't look good for the officer in this case.


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April 12, 2021, 01:49 PM
mbinky
Bodycam from the officer.


April 12, 2021, 01:53 PM
kimber1911
What are the odds little Daunte was scrambling for a gun?
I think it is most likely.

Up and coming rapper, raps in his car with his gun.

Valedictorian, Daunte Wright



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April 12, 2021, 01:53 PM
sigalert
I typed a much longer response. But I'll just say I'm sympathetic to the officer. I hope she can recover from this.





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April 12, 2021, 02:22 PM
bozman
How much money did the parents just became eligible for do you figure?

Floyd's family got 27 million I think?

Town's going to go broke with all of these payouts and expensive legal battles. Not to mention, I am sure these people all pay taxes (not).

Prayers for the cop... none for the thug.


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April 12, 2021, 02:35 PM
gw3971
After listening to the dem gov and mayors it doesn't look good for any cop in this state. Not a single word about resisting arrest. Not a single explanation about what the law requires of a citizens responsibility when they are being arrested. No job can be worth what these cops are about to go through. Again. You cant survive in this world. You will never be given a fair shake and you surely cant do your job with any possibility of success with backing like these democrats. The thin blue line needs to become the invisible blue line.
April 12, 2021, 02:40 PM
recoatlift
Why the always resisting? Why not do what the cop asks! Why always with the burning and looting as a result? Why not comply when you’ve broke the law?
April 12, 2021, 02:46 PM
MikeinNC
quote:
Originally posted by recoatlift:
Why the always resisting? Why not do what the cop asks! Why always with the burning and looting as a result? Why not comply when you’ve broke the law?


And he had a warrant. But they gonna riot anyway, cause that’s what they do...doesn’t matter that didndonuffin, was wrong-resisting....they just don’t get that by complying, you won’t get hurt


And I’ve never understood the grabbing of fingers and then trying to handcuff....we were taught to place the right arm thru the suspects arm and creae an arm bar against the suspects upper right arm and then handcuff, one wrist at a time.



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April 12, 2021, 03:01 PM
mbinky
If you want to fight the police, you need to do it in a court of law and not on the side of the road.

One fight you may win, the other fight you'll always lose.
April 12, 2021, 03:28 PM
chongosuerte
Damn. I’m sorry but at this point in the evolution of policing I find it difficult to imagine a justifiable excuse for taser/gun confusion. This is not even close to a new problem.

Poor training/policy from the department? I could believe.
An officer that didn’t have the presence of mind to keep calm enough under stress?

I do not see a good ending.




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April 12, 2021, 03:31 PM
Underdog
Did that perp really think he was going to get away?

I too wonder if we'll find out he had a pistol in the car. His facebook has a pic of him with one.
April 12, 2021, 03:44 PM
trapper189
“ According to KARE 11 reporter Chris Hrapsky, Daunte Wright had an outstanding warrant for gross misdemeanor carrying a pistol without a permit and misdemeanor fleeing police. The warrant was issued on April 2 after he failed to appear for court, Hrapsky said.”

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April 12, 2021, 03:45 PM
dking271
quote:
Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Damn. I’m sorry but at this point in the evolution of policing I find it difficult to imagine a justifiable excuse for taser/gun confusion. This is not even close to a new problem.

Poor training/policy from the department? I could believe.
An officer that didn’t have the presence of mind to keep calm enough under stress?

I do not see a good ending.


+1 Nothing good is going to happen to the officer. I’m guessing that he in fact had a gun in the car seeing as though his failure to appear warrant was for fleeing from the police with an unlicensed firearm. One loser who probably just arrived at his destiny a little faster than scheduled due to poor training and negligence.


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April 12, 2021, 03:49 PM
mbinky
quote:
Originally posted by chongosuerte:
I do not see a good ending.


Neither do I but it has happened before.

Judge dismisses case against Lawrence police officer who shot man, says evidence does not show she acted recklessly

“To consciously disregard something, one must be aware of it,” Kittel said. “There is no evidence that the defendant consciously disregarded a substantial and unjustifiable risk … She meant to use her Taser.”

https://www2.ljworld.com/news/...he-acted-recklessly/
April 12, 2021, 04:09 PM
chongosuerte
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
quote:
Originally posted by chongosuerte:
I do not see a good ending.


Neither do I but it has happened before.

Judge dismisses case against Lawrence police officer who shot man, says evidence does not show she acted recklessly

“To consciously disregard something, one must be aware of it,” Kittel said. “There is no evidence that the defendant consciously disregarded a substantial and unjustifiable risk … She meant to use her Taser.”

https://www2.ljworld.com/news/...he-acted-recklessly/


Oh, I’m aware of similar (and worse) not being prosecuted. Not too many years ago, this (and worse) most likely wouldn’t even be charged to begin with. There are some mind-boggling stories of accidents in this vein through the years. I knew a horrible sergeant that eventually became a police chief and then a magistrate that killed a woman in a similar situation in a different era. But it’s a different atmosphere.




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April 12, 2021, 04:36 PM
220-9er
I haven't watched it in great detail but it sounds like she called out that she was shooting him with a Taser but actually had a gun in her hand so that's that.
They are now calling it an accident.


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April 12, 2021, 05:09 PM
Graniteguy
The first mistake the LEO made was trying to cuff him in front of an open drivers door. Move the perp to the rear/trunk area to mitigate access to the vehicle's interior and/or escape in car. (as well as minimizing any communication with other passengers in vehicle)

And of course it all went downhill from there.