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The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States

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January 22, 2021, 10:49 AM
Lefty Sig
The riots in America and the attempted overthrow of the United States
Or they will protest the democrats enough to "prove" that Antifa is non-political and just bent on anarchy and mayhem and were not funded and in collusion with democrats prior to the election. Some of that plausible deniability that Biden is so fond of.
January 22, 2021, 12:09 PM
Ripley
^^^^^

Excellent thoughts, Lefty Sig, short and to the point.




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January 22, 2021, 02:17 PM
dewhorse
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
^^^^^

Of course, now that they are protesting a leftist government, their actions are being branded unlawful assemblies. Who'd have guessed that would happen?


And now Twatter and FB are removing their pages for "fomenting violence" Eek

The progs consider these rioters useful idiots and now they are no longer needed....at least until they need to use them for intimidation again.
January 22, 2021, 02:22 PM
nhtagmember
quote:
Originally posted by Icabod:
Last night Seattle had yet another flag burning, spray painting, vandalizing, widow breaking protest. However, police made arrests and the mayor met with small business owners.
You see, this time they smashed the original Starbucks! In reality they hit the main tourist area. Pike Place Market is normally fill with tourists year rounds. To have a protest there threatens revenue. Worse, Seattle takes its coffee seriously. The original Starbucks is always mobbed, and a “must see” visit. The protestors may have overstepped.


as one who likes coffee, I say give those protestors a medal for getting rid of a Starbucks....

not a huge loss in the scheme of things
January 22, 2021, 05:01 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by dewhorse:
And now Twatter and FB are removing their pages for "fomenting violence" Eek

Oh-ho-ho-hooo! OK, Zuckerberg, what are you going to do when you're the only one on your side? Besides be gracious about having to kiss the Section 230 protections goodbye? Methinks Anqueefa isn't the only weapon the Dems helped forge and then polished that they'll now need to fear will be used against them in upcoming elections!

But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Dems actually believe that freedom is best served by the existence of multiple autonomous power bases in society. And maybe pigs will fly without mechanical assistance...
January 24, 2021, 09:10 AM
Mars_Attacks
A large group of leftist trash attacked a police car in Tacoma last night and the officer had no choice but to plow through the crowd or die.


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January 24, 2021, 10:18 AM
220-9er
^^^
From the "play stupid games" file, this shows several different angles.

https://mynorthwest.com/249958...-drove-out-of-crowd/


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January 24, 2021, 10:46 AM
pulicords
quote:
Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
A large group of leftist trash attacked a police car in Tacoma last night and the officer had no choice but to plow through the crowd riotous mob or die.


Fixed it for you! The whining has already started for the poor babies that may have been injured and fingers are already pointing at a cop with the wherewithal and will to survive. Darwin was right and these idiots have no business contributing to the gene pool if they place more value on mob rule than the rule of law. No tears from me.


"I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."
January 24, 2021, 12:03 PM
220-9er
The idiot that was flattened still had the cell phone/camera in his hand. The last video (^^^) in my post shows it best.
The narrative from the leftist/MSM says the cop "drove through the crowd". That will likely be the party line whenever this crap happens until they caught or until one of their on scene propagandists gets caught in a similar situation and the police can't help them.


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January 24, 2021, 12:22 PM
Graniteguy
Darwinism is strong in WA.
January 24, 2021, 01:43 PM
az4783054
CARma
January 24, 2021, 01:51 PM
Bytes
WTF are they bitching about now? Never mind, stupid question.
January 24, 2021, 01:55 PM
Greymann
Massad Ayoob take on mob violence.
Avoid or carry a 115gr +p+ & $800,000.
If don't want watch all of the video,
start at the 8 minute mark.


January 24, 2021, 02:15 PM
tleo205
Of course the headline was....police car drives through crowd of pedestrians. Not a word of course, that they were rioters.
January 24, 2021, 02:42 PM
Scoutmaster
I lived in Silicon Valley for close to 40 years, know quite well the liberal mantra. My concern with the liberal trend is that anti-social behavior will increase, economic health will decline, and the liberals will never admit the cause of the problems.




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
January 24, 2021, 06:34 PM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by icom706:
I look at the Democrats in power no longer as Bolsheviks in the Lenin sense, but as Maoists in the Mao sense.


I’ve been giving a lot of thought to the state of radical leftism in the country recently, and it prompted me to reread The Soviet Tragedy by Martin Malia. At first when seeing the ANTIFA tactics, they struck me as most similar to the Nazi SA’s, but there are a lot of differences. It finally dawned on me that I was trying too hard to find actions and organizations that were exactly equivalent. Not every tyrannical movement bent on establishing a totalitarian regime will do so by precisely the same methods or organizations like the Red Guards or Sturmabteilung. Although ANTIFA doesn’t do the same things in the same way as did the SA, there are no meetings of its enemies in beer halls to break up.

The Chinese Communists, Nazis, Bolsheviks, and other totalitarian regimes didn’t all gain power by the same means and there may be no individual to whom we can point (yet) as the ANTIFA Zhou Enlai, Leon Trotsky, or Ernst Röhm, but the organizations have all had the same basic goals and were/are willing to use essentially the same methods and tactics to achieve them. That means that despite any artificial left/right divide attached to the organizations by historians and politicians for their own agendas, there is no fundamental difference among them. We should not, I therefore believe, get hung up on which tyrannical organization or regime the modern groups resemble most in any details we might focus on.

Although ANTIFA may be becoming an embarrassment to the Democrat party at present as other violent factions have sometimes embarrassed their parents, in general the party itself is attempting to achieve the same ends as the other totalitarian regimes of the past century. There are of course many individual Democrat voters and politicians who would disagree, but there were many members of the Nazi and various Communist parties who disagreed with many of the details of their organizations’ goals and actions as well—but to no avail either. And sooner or later, the ones who fail to fall in line (and even many who do) will suffer from the same inevitable purges conducted by other totalitarian regimes.

(I am not, BTW, challenging or disagreeing with icom706 because I don’t know enough to have an opinion about that particular analysis. I am much less familiar with the history of Red China than I am of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Part of that is due to less personal interest, but also because much more has been written and revealed about the latter two—and I believe, because of the personal agendas of the historians who write about such things. These are just my own thoughts and observations about the current state of affairs.)

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January 24, 2021, 06:38 PM
PowerSurge
Read “The Russian Revolution” by Richard Pipes. A lot of similarities between what we are seeing in the US today and not long before the Commies took over Russia.


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January 24, 2021, 08:55 PM
Icabod
The Seattle Police chief announced a new policy. Police will actually arrest people? Perhaps Starbucks threatened to shut off the coffee? I did see mention that the city prosecutor claimed they hadn’t heard about it.


“ SEATTLE (AP) — Interim Seattle Police Chief Adrian Diaz says the city is getting tougher on those who commit vandalism during street protests.

Diaz announced the new policy before an anticipated protest Saturday, saying it was coordinated with Seattle City Attorney Pete Holmes, The Seattle Times reported.

Over the past year, police have made about 600 arrests during protests, but in many cases misdemeanors have not been prosecuted. Diaz says that’s changing and those suspects will have their day in court — especially those who have been arrested repeatedly for vandalism.

A crowd of so-called black-bloc demonstrators who marched on Wednesday night following President Joe Biden’s inauguration broke glass windows and doors of several downtown buildings, including a Starbucks and the William Kenzo Nakamura Courthouse. Police made three arrests, including one for assault.

Extra officers were on duty downtown Saturday, Diaz said.”
https://www.987thebull.com/sea...ndalism-at-protests/
  




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January 24, 2021, 09:14 PM
Bulldog7972
Reginald Denny. All one needs to know.
January 24, 2021, 09:36 PM
Scoutmaster
quote:
Originally posted by Icabod:
The Seattle Police chief announced a new policy. Police will actually arrest people? Perhaps Starbucks threatened to shut off the coffee? I did see mention that the city prosecutor claimed they hadn’t heard about it. . . .


But arresting (mostly peaceful) protesters is violating their rights. Biden should stick up for the protesters. Wink




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944