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Anybody over at CNN have an IQ above room temp? Apparently not. The stupid is strong and growing in that group. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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They all get their marching order from the top maggot Zucker. Clockwork. SSDD. The sun rises, and the sky is blue. Q | |||
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A late good friend who was a homespun philosopher was fond of saying, "They're pissing in your ear and telling you it's raining". It galls me that they truly believe we are stupid enough to buy their BS, but I suppose a good number of people can't tell the difference between piss and rain... CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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They are SHOCKED that the police do not buy their deception. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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Perhaps it was something I’ve posted a few times here, an observation by John W. Campbell who was, of all things, a science fiction writer and editor. In reference to H.G. Wells’ The Invisible Man he said that it’s not power that corrupts, but immunity. Since I ran across that statement some years ago, I’ve often had reason to think about how true it is. We are surrounded by people with power of one sort or another. The greatest power, as Mao Zedong put it, is deadly physical force such as is represented by the barrel of a gun, and in our society countless people who own and sometimes carry guns have that power. Many are police officers who not only have the power of the gun at hand, but the power to arrest. But why isn’t everyone with that power corrupt? The answer, as Campbell saw, is that few of us with guns have immunity from acting corruptly, i.e., in violation of the law. But now of course we are seeing the consequences of allowing certain people with power to be immune from the consequences of corrupt acts. Some are career criminals such as the thugs who kill each other in places like Chicago, but it is becoming more egregiously common among our elected officials. Until (if?) that immunity is curbed, it and its consequences will only get worse. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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As it should. Leave the area means that you leave the area. The so called "Street Medics" are next. . | |||
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Good article on Kyle Rittenhouse this morning. Of course most of this has already been pointed out by the very smart and informed Sigforum members here. The Charges Against Kyle Rittenhouse By Grant Baker On August 27th, prosecutors in Kenosha County filed six charges against Kyle Rittenhouse which read as follows: 1. First degree reckless homicide, use of a dangerous weapon 2. First degree recklessly endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon 3. First degree intentional homicide, use of a dangerous weapon 4. Attempt first degree intentional homicide, use of a dangerous weapon 5. First degree recklessly endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon 6. Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. A detailed breakdown of the facts of the case can be found here. What follows is a breakdown of the law applicable to the case. Counts 1, 3, and 4 relate to shots fired at Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber, and Gaige Grosskreutz respectively, all of whom are on film attacking Kyle Rittenhouse as he attempts to flee. Count 2 is ancillary to Count 1, relating to Daily Caller reporter Richard McGinnis, who was following Rosenbaum at the time of the incident and was therefore in Kyle’s line of fire. Count 5 refers to the two shots fired at the unknown male who attempted a jumping stomp on Kyle’s head after he tripped and fell while fleeing a violent mob. Both shots missed and the man fled the scene. Count 6 is an attempt to punish Kyle for merely having the gun. The defense against Counts 1 to 5 will be Wisconsin’s broad self-defense laws. Citizens have no duty to flee when endangered (although Kyle did) and maintain self-defense privileges even if attacked by those one provokes (so long as the provocation did not include criminal entrapment). There is no duty to use the least possible force when threatened, only reasonable force, a standard judged by the person in question. In other words, prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Kyle Rittenhouse did not believe he had risk of great bodily harm and that the force he used was unreasonable according to Kyle’s own standards. Unlikely, given the facts of the case. Additionally, both men killed by Rittenhouse had their hands on Kyle’s gun at the time of being shot, a detail confirmed by eyewitness Richard McGinnis and videos of the incident, making the men in possession of a gun. Both Rosenbaum and Huber were convicted felons and therefore may not possess firearms in Wisconsin. Bizarrely, even the charges mention that the men had grabbed Rittenhouse’s gun, undermining the prosecutors’ allegations. Worse yet, Gaige Grosskreutz, the third felon shot by Rittenhouse, had an illegal handgun drawn and pointed at Rittenhouse just before being shot. Grosskreutz later admitted through a third party that “his only regret was not killing the kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him.” Grosskreutz has not been charged with a crime. We are left with Count 6, illegal possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18. Kyle Rittenhouse is only 17, an open and shut case, right? Not quite. There is an exception for minors under 18 years of age armed with a rifle, which Kyle was indeed armed with. There are exceptions to this exception dealing with persons under 16 and hunting approvals, but neither are applicable in this case. Kyle Rittenhouse escapes this charge as well. Considering the facts of the case and the state laws governing Wisconsin, it becomes clear that Kyle’s actions were not reckless -- the prosecutor’s decisions were. The story of Kyle Rittenhouse is more than a gripping piece of news, it is a telling philosophical Rorschach test. A lone individual stood up to a mob of violent felons, abusers, and pedophiles, asserting his right to live over their lust for his blood, and won. While the American public, generous in their deference for human life, and may have paused in horror at the shootings, the tide of public opinion is turning for Kyle as the deluge of exculpatory facts break through the dam of misinformation. Americans should take note at which institutions were quick to back Kyle, which condemned him, and the cowards in between. America’s Founders foresaw the need for armed young men to rise to the defense of their communities against rioters, looters, and foreign invaders. Men younger than Kyle fought in the American Revolution, put down insurrections under George Washington, and trained in militia groups in anticipation of threats. It was for these men that the 2nd Amendment was written, and it is men like Kyle whom the amendment must continue to protect. The frailty of the charges brought against Kyle Rittenhouse show the well from which the insurrectionist mobs draw their power: the political class, the prosecutor’s office, and the media. Rittenhouse is charged with allegations refuted by the prosecutor’s own complaint, but the Portland murderer can gun down Trump supporters in the street because prosecutors declined to press charges for his gun crimes. The privilege of immunity for city leaders and prosecutors who abdicate their duties must end. It is time for President Trump to order his Justice Department to lock up corrupt prosecutors and city leaders who knowingly put people in danger. Until then, we depend on citizens like Kyle Rittenhouse. https://www.americanthinker.co...yle_rittenhouse.html Why hasn't Michael Reinoehl been arrested? https://theconservativetreehou...-black-lives-matter/ "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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They are not "Stupid." They are "LYING," which is MUCH worse. The msm doesn't care about the truth; only how they can manipulate and pervert it to serve their purposes and support their 'narrative.' The msm is the enemy of the American people. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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I agree....It is dangerous and wrong to assume that these people are just stupid. No, the problem does not lie in their head, but in their hearts. That is where the seeds of evil begin to grow and flourish. I think many of us deep down just don't want to believe that our fellow man is capable of being that manipulative and evil, but the history of mankind is replete with those of that ilk. Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love. - 1 Corinthians 16:13-14 | |||
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https://www.breitbart.com/law-...-ted-wheelers-condo/ Rioters marched on the home of Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler overnight Monday into Tuesday, looting nearby stores and setting furniture on fire in the street. At one point, they reportedly set fires inside the condominium building itself More than 200 people on Monday night marched to the Pearl District condominium tower where Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler lives to demand his resignation. The demonstration quickly turned destructive as some in the crowd lit a fire in the street, then placed a picnic table from a nearby business on top of the fire to feed the blaze. People shattered windows and broke into a ground-floor dental office took items including a chair, also added to the fire, and office supplies. Shortly after 11 p.m., a bundle of newspapers was set ablaze and thrown into a ground-floor storefront in the residential building. videos at link Wheeler has also faced demands from the far-left that he resign from his position. On Friday, hours after he sent a letter to Trump rejecting his help, activists marched on his condo. Among them was the man suspected to be the shooter, Michael Forest Reinoehl, who was photographed there by the Oregonian. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx adding: CNN thinks the DEM voting base is stupid, unaware, ill-informed, and easily influenced by pure false fabrications of classic propaganda. The DEM voting base has not proved them wrong. | |||
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This guy has been photographed more than the Kardashians since he's been Id'd as the shooter of the Partiot Prayers kid. They can't even pick him up for questioning? "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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His neighbors must be pissed. Even if they did vote in Little Teddy. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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"The Democrats have lost control of the radical left" ""Black lives Matter" is a marxist organization." seen at: https://theconservativetreehou...ngraham/#more-198742 | |||
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Perhaps if they bring pitchforks as well as torches to the Mayor's condo next time, maybe he'll pay attention. | |||
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The only groups that are 'protesting' and burning things in Portland are far-left...had the news bothered to even read some of the graffiti that's marked around or, heard what was shouted, Wheeler isn't left-enough for them. Its a hard concept for the legacy media that what is unfolding is ham-fisted insurgency, with a variety of wealthy enablers, they can't wrap their heads around it. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Too busy doing interviews for the media after he finishes his important contracting work. | |||
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Yeah. On the radio just this morning I heard that the 2nd attempt to recall Brown came up short by 3000 signatures. I've been seeing tents set up all over the place with signature sheets. All you gotta do is pull over and sign one. But people just won't do it. Yes, I did, in fact I went out of my way to do it. But I'm in the minority here. | |||
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New York regresses... The Sacking of New York City: 1970’s Radical Chic Reaches the Streets By Fay Voshell During the 1968 Olympics, most Americans were shocked to see two of the United States’ finest athletes raise their fists in loyalty to the Black Panthers, a radical group advocating violence as a means to change society. The controversy engendered by Smith-Carlos still has not died out. Fast forward from the 1968 Olympics to a contemporary scene in the nation’s capital of Washington, DC. There, diners were harassed by Black Lives Matter protestors, who demanded each person give a clenched fist salute indicating solidarity with BLM.  YouTube screen grab What happened between 1968 to 2020? How did the United States get from the scene at the Olympics, which was largely repudiated as unpatriotic and excessive, to the scene at the DC restaurant? How did Americans get to the point the equivalent of a Nazi salute is demanded of them by roving gangs? The nation got here from there because a radical segment of the civil rights movement moved away from the nonviolent protests of Martin Luther King to embrace the violence advocated by organizations such as the Black Panthers. We also got from there to here because of a class of elites that have supported and assisted the ideology embraced by radical groups like the Black Panthers and Black Lives Matter, who share almost identical goals. Tom Wolfe noted in his brilliant and prescient essay, “Radical Chic: That Party at Lenny’s,” that Leonard Bernstein was intrigued with the Black Panthers. Bernstein, who sprang to fame as the composer of West Side Story and the conductor of the New York Philharmonic, invited the cognoscenti of 1970’s New York to a party at his home to support the Black Panthers. Wolfe’s acid pen spared no one; including the fashionistas who wondered just what one should wear to a party comprised of revolutionaries demanding the extinction of their sort of people. Certainly, the usual ostentatious display of wealth would not do. Maybe a chic little black dress? Ah, sighed Wolfe, “the delicious little agonies of Radical Chic.” But more serious issues than revolutionary chic surfaced at Lenny’s party. Attending were supporters of ideas that later produced actual, rather than theoretical violence. The guests who celebrated the radicals advocating the overthrow of the structures that supported the literati and aficionados of the arts turned out to be celebrating their own downfall -- while toasting the wooden horse they had welcomed into their Troy. The ideas that grabbed the attention and monies of New York’s well-to-do later trickled down and bore the rotten fruit that may have damaged New York beyond repair. “Lenny’s party” has been taken outside into the streets of New York, where the partiers have been freed from any restraint and allowed to riot as they please. It’s noteworthy that the street gangs have not invited the elite, who have been fleeing the city, taking their wealth with them. Meanwhile, encouraged by Mayor de Blasio, the violent celebrators are busily attempting to exchange the current police force for authority figures who will remain amenable to the fundamental transformation of the city according to the tenets of Black Lives Matter, a contemporary iteration of the Black Panthers. Now most New Yorkers also are seeing the results of ideas “Lenny,” who was sincerely and deeply troubled about societal injustices, could not or would not see. But Wolfe foresaw it all fifty years ago. He wrote: “The emotional momentum was building rapidly when Ray “Masai” Hewitt, the Panthers’ Minister of Education and member of the Central Committee, rose to speak. Hewitt was an intense, powerful young man and in no mood to play the diplomacy game. Some of you here, he said, may have some feelings left for the establishment, but we don’t. We want to see it die. We’re Maoist revolutionaries, and we have no choice but to fight to the finish. For about 30 minutes Masai Hewitt laid it on the line. He referred now and again to “that M ----- F ----- Nixon” and to how the struggle would not be easy, and that if buildings were burned and other violence ensued, that was only part of the struggle that the power structure had forced the oppressed minorities into.... But more than one Park Avenue matron was thrown into a Radical Chic confusion. The most memorable quote was: ‘He’s a magnificent man, but suppose some simple-minded schmucks take all that business about burning down buildings seriously?’” A good question. The answer? A good many “simple-minded schmucks” have taken the idea of burning down buildings seriously. But as Wolfe noted, if you are giving fundraising parties for revolutionaries, should you be surprised if they use those funds to achieve the agenda they espouse, including immolating the houses and businesses of the hosts -- and maybe even the hosts themselves? What is the agenda? Donald Cox, a leader of the Black Panthers and an invitee to the party, did not hesitate to let the resplendent representatives of capitalist greed just what was wanted: “The Black Panther Party… stands for a 10-point program that was handed down in October, 1966, by our Minister of Defense, Huey P. Newton… We want an educational system that expresses the true nature of this decadent society… We want all black men exempt from military service…. We want all black men who are in jail to be set free…. And most important of all… we want peace, but there can be no peace as long as a society is racist and one part of society engages in systematic oppression of another…. We want a plebiscite by the United Nations to be held in black communities, so that we can control our own destiny.” Included in Cox’s address was scorn toward “pigs;” known to others as “police.” “‘We call them pigs, and rightly so,’ says Don Cox, ‘because they have the way of making the victim look like the criminal, and the criminal look like the victim…. We recognize that this country is the most oppressive country in the world, maybe in the history of the world. The pigs have the weapons…. They are ready to commit genocide against those who stand up against them, and we recognize this as being very bad.” Fifty years later, gone are the worries about what to wear to the party in the streets. Jeans and masks are the great equalizers, providing anonymity to the partiers who are helping themselves to the goods of greedy capitalist pig oppressors. Gone now, too, is the sentimental nostalgia of radical chic as the reality of the trashing of Fifth Avenue sinks in. But also gone now are Cox’s worries the Black Panther party and its radically chic supporters would never be mainstreamed or part of the “system.” Wolfe noted Richard Feigen, a wealthy art dealer who attended the Bernstein soiree, asked a question: “…Are the Black Panthers interested in getting any political leverage within the System?” Cox initially was ambivalent about the usefulness of the traditional political system, stating, “We have no power within the system, and we will never have any power within the system. The only power we have is the power to destroy, the power to disrupt.” But remaining true to his redistributionist ideology, he added that he thought cooperation with the “system” was not possible, and that “the means of production should be taken from the businessman and placed in the community, with the people.” After Cox’s speech, Barbara Walters, also a guest, expressed tentative concerns about advocacy of violence: “Last year we interviewed Mrs. Eldridge Cleaver, Kathleen Cleaver…. I asked her, I said, ‘I have a child, and you have a child,’ and I said, ‘Do you see any possibility that our children will be able to grow up and live side by side in peace and harmony?’ and she said, ‘not with the conditions that prevail in this society today, not without the overthrow of the system.’ So I asked her, ‘How do you feel, as a mother, about the prospect of your child being in that kind of confrontation, a nation in flames?’ and she said, ‘Let it burn!’ And I said, ‘What about your own child?’ and she said, ‘May he light the first match!’ (Italics mine.) Walters wondered if there was “any chance at all for a peaceful solution to these problems, some way out without violence?” It’s clear the answer to Ms. Walter’s question is “No.” The children are now grown and lighting matches. So, no, the rioters do not see a peaceful solution. Further, as to the leveraging the current political system, the revolutionaries now have control of the machinery of the Democrat party, which in turn has control of many of America’s cities. The insurgents have clearly announced they wish to put the essentially communist agenda of the Black Panthers, Antifa and Black Lives Matter into effect -- not just within the cities, but throughout the entire nation. They are attempting a coup. They want to replace current authorities with their own people, who will then complete the transformation of the cities into socialist/communist utopias. In an interview given by him only three weeks before his death, another Leonard; namely, Leonard Cohen, spoke about the deep roots of his music. Cohen, whose unique musical genius is celebrated, is best known composing the song “Hallelujah.” But he also wrote a piece entitled “First We take Manhattan.” As usual with his lyrics, there is an ambiguity. However, Cohen himself was in no doubt as to the interpretation of his lyrics. When asked, he said, “I think it means exactly what it says. It is a terrorist song. I think it's a response to terrorism. There's something about terrorism that I've always admired.” Cohen, like Bernstein, saw that many, if not most violent protestors were persuaded by a vision of immediate justice -- what he called “a signal from the heavens.” Though Cohen himself was not an advocate of violence, he admired the ideas and cause of the deeply injured who sought justice. Asked if he were a religious man, Cohen spoke of the landscape of the Bible and the universals that guided him. He noted that guidance was not shared by many in his circles. Martin Luther King, Jr. was also committed to the universals articulated by the Bible, but rejected violence. He often quoted the prophets Micah and Amos: “He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God…. Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!” The loss of the transcendent universals concerning humanity and the God who created each person once guided, informed and restrained the nation. Desertion of those principles in favor of the anger and violence of radical identity politics has led to today’s chaos. But in the admonitions of Micah, Amos and other prophets are found the principles for genuine reform for America. If a return to those foundational principles is not realized, America’s cities will continue to burn. Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...s.html#ixzz6WnmqcDSI "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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