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| A teetotaling beer aficionado  |
My thought on this accumulated sick days is they just become more vacation days, so why not just call them that. Then if you do need a "sick day" it just comes out of that vacation bank, or maybe better called "paid days off bank", which would be substantially bigger because the sick day allowance is rolled in there. Reminds me back when I was in a corporate job, I had a young women take a week long vacation to go to Disney World, and ate a bad hot dog or something that made her sick and caused her to stay in bed in her hotel. She called in sick and wanted that day not counted as vacation. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
As Rey HRH and others have pointed out, that's exactly what many/most companies are doing nowadays. Instead of separate vacation time banks and sick time banks, instead you have all-in-one Paid Time Off (PTO) banks. | |||
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| No More Mr. Nice Guy |
My employer did not pay out unused sick time when quitting/retiring. I think they paid out unused vacation time. Employees could cash out their sick or vacation time to bump up a paycheck, and the company was always chronically understaffed and was pleased to pay out rather than someone take a day off. The company used the last day of actual work as the quit date, which affects all kinds of things such as medical insurance coverage, last paycheck timing (taxes), qualifying for retirement, etc. So the smart people start claiming sick/vacation days on their scheduled days off before quitting. | |||
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We have 3 'banks' of usable 'PTO' 2 days (16 hrs) Floating Holiday 1 week (40 hrs) Personal Then PTO, which the qty increases with years of service. But, we can only carry over 40hrs & it must be used by the end of Q2 the following year or it's lost. Formerly, it had to be used by end of Q1. At 9 years, I have enough that I could take about a month off at once. But, it all gets used the same, we just take the floaters & personal first then the PTO so the excess can get carried over, if you have it. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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I think his FIL did that about 15 years ago. I hadn’t heard of that before and it made me curious. This is my first hourly position in 20 years. I have no clue of what my company’s policy is. "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men have insurance." JALLEN | |||
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I just retired from a company that gives 6 weeks (240 hours) of PTO time every year to its employees, which can be used as either sick or vacation time. Used to be, you could carry over any that you didn't use to the next year, with no limit. There were a few of us who had upward of a thousand hours of PTO time on the books. Then the CFO decided that was too much of a debt liability for the company, and they put a 480 hour cap on what you could accumulate. It took a couple years to fully implement it, and some people took a LOT of days off during those 2 years. I had the full 480 hours still built up when I retired. They cashed it out at 100% for the first 240 and 50% for the rest. | |||
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| I've got mental blue balls now  |
I work for a public 4-year university (technically I am a state employee) and our sick leave accrual has no ceiling, paid vacation leave capped at 240 hours. If I left my job and went to another public university in the state, my sick & vacation go with me. Or if I went to work for the State tax commission, library, etc. I do believe that you get to use some of the sick leave at retirement to be used towards health insurance, etc. I don't think you could actually use a full year of sick leave earning a paycheck, while not working. Maybe they pay out in cash? I'm so far from retirement, who knows what it will be in 20+ years. _____________________________________________ Welcome to Idaho, now take a wolf and go home! | |||
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Truth Seeker |
I have over 550 hours of sick leave right now. With the state, if you leave before retirement then you lose it. It is held for one year and if you go to another state agency within that year then it may transfer. Depending when you started with the state, if you retire then the sick leave has a benefit towards your retirement. There is no way here that you could just use it up before leaving. After three days sick you must have a doctor’s note so you would have to be on FMLA or something to burn it up. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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When I retired from the Fed Govt I sold 240 hours of annual leave and used over 2,000 hours of sick leave toward my time in fed service. | |||
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We get 13 sick days a year but only 3 personal days. You can only hold 90 sick days in the bank. After that you can sell back up to 9 sick days a year for $50. (Yes $50 bucks, before taxes). Upon retirement can you sell back up to 90 days at 50% rate. | |||
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From some back-room secret meeting at a CFO convention: "Hey, we're giving our new employees 2 weeks of vacation and one week of sick time per year. Let's combine it into 3 weeks and call it something new... how about 'PTO'?" "Hey, then in about two years, we'll start giving our new employees 2 weeks of PTO!" That's how they get ya! Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet. - Dave Barry "Never go through life saying 'I should have'..." - quote from the 9/11 Boatlift Story (thanks, sdy for posting it) | |||
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| Shit don't mean shit |
Salaried employee with a fortune 500 company here. We have PTO and can accumulate up to 400 hours before we stop accruing. I am a PTO hoarder and do not like to dip below 200 hours. During the pandemic I didn't take any time (my choice) and I think I got up to 350 hours or so. I then took 3 out of 4 weeks off last summer to work on my kitchen remodel. I currently have about 280 hours, but we're going to Mexico for 2 weeks, so I'll be back down to 200. I like PTO and feel fortunate that we can roll it over every year. I rarely take "sick time". I did get Covid last year and took 3 or 4 days as PTO. | |||
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The cake is a lie! |
We only get 24 hours per year that do not roll over. Use it or lose it. | |||
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In Odin we trust |
Do you mean you never earned sick leave, or you're one of those guys with a false sense of masculinity & "toughness" who always came to work sick & infected the rest of the office? First one is understandable. The second one is not praiseworthy at all. If you're sick, legitimately sick, stay tf at home. _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis | |||
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paradox in a box |
My company has a use it or lose it policy. My policy for my direct reports is to call in and say “I’m taking a sick day.” I don’t care to know more unless they volunteer how many days they expect to be out. These go to eleven. | |||
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You have 2 choices: Take all your sick prior to leaving and get a regular paycheck for the next month… OR Sell the sick leave and make Pennie’s on the dollar. For me it’s a no brainer, I’m taking the leave and collecting a full paycheck for the month. We had a guy at our sister shop who had a years worth of sick leave. His retirement date was nearing. He went to his doctor and had the doc write note to management that due to his health, he will be on sick leave until his retirement is complete. | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
Wow! הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Many federal employees take advantage of their accumulated sick leave and are able to add months to years of service to increase their annuity in retirement. https://www.federalretirement.net/sickleavechart.htm | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I'm with you there. People I work with know that I believe if you're sick you stay home. If you need to work, you can work from home as the people I work with are issued laptops. During flu season, if someone comes around me in my office and is sick, as soon as they turn their back, I spray the air with lysol. In August 2019, I got sick over a weekend; I honestly think it was an early variant of Covid. I search out the girl who sat across me for lunch as I knew she just came from a business trip in China. I asked her if she was sick Friday and she admitted yes. She knew I didn't appreciate that as it's not like I invited her to sit down, she invited herself to sit down and chat for lunch. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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