Team Apathy
| quote: Originally posted by parabellum: ...I think he's got some growing up to do.
I think this is the heart of the issue. Ohio Governorship will be good for Vivek, I think, and allow us the chance to observe and see what he does from a policy point of view. I think it was probably a good move on his part to part ways with DOGE and let Elon run with it. I think it is too early to say that he will not be a contender in 2028, as some in this thread opine. I think he might, but maybe not. There is still a lot of time and we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. Lets enjoy the ride in this moment for now. |
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| I neither like nor dislike the guy. Never paid a lot of attention to him in the run-up to the presidential elections. I was always paying attention to Trump. He might make a good Ohio governor but I don't know anything about his competition. It's not hard for me to see how one could not want to listen to him. |
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Bad dog!

| He knows just what to say, but the look on his face, his tone of voice, convey falsehood.
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| quote: Originally posted by justjoe: He knows just what to say, but the look on his face, his tone of voice, convey falsehood.
I'd say he knows what to say but I highly doubt he knows what to do. I doubt he can lead. Except he let his true feelings be known when he said white people are lazy and we need to extend H1Bs... He lost me there. Every time I see something about him, that's all I think of.
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| Vivek is a year older than I am, he stuck his foot so far into his mouth with the H1B visa thing it exposed everything I really needed to know. More especially because at that exact same time I was reading about the specific and intentional undermining of American science education and scientist pay, starting when he and I were just entering elementary school. He had typical Indian high demanding parents, that have made him highly successful, but he's no leader, an asset to the right leader, absolutely but no leader himself.
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quarter MOA visionary

| quote: Originally posted by wrightd: Agreed, that about sums it up. A Charlatan.  |
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| quote: Originally posted by 92fstech: I think walking away from DOGE was a huge mistake. It was an opportunity for him to build some credibility and put some substance behind his claims. Now the only political track record he has is leaving right when the rubber hit the road. And this was his thing...his entire campaign was focused on shredding the bureaucracy. It's all he talked about. You would think that if anyone would be prepared and excited to be a part of that it would be him. Walking away is not a good look, and it makes me less inclined to trust him.
You may be right, he may turn out to be a dud. However, having Elon & Vivek co-chair DOGE strikes me as similar to putting co-captains in an airline cockpit. Someone has to be in charge and I have great difficulty seeing either Elon or Vivek settling into a number two slot. Between the two of them, I suspect that we may have ended up with the best leader of DOGE. Vivek may or may not be successful in running for the governor’s seat. If he is successful, we’ll get a chance to see how well he can lead. Either way, looking around the current administration there appear to be a few potentially very good candidates for us to consider in 2028. Let’s see what thing look like in two to three years. |
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| quote: Originally posted by darthfuster: I’m not turning on him. He wants to play quarterback. We already have a quarterback.
Me, neither. He hasn't given me any clues to turn on him. Imo, having two co-leaders of DOGE was a mistake, and with Musk being better equipped at it, not to mention he did more to help elect Trump, it's only fitting that Vivek must go. I wish him success in his run for OH governor.
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| quote: Originally posted by parabellum: Yes, he's articulate and obviously an intelligent man, but the more I listen to him, the more I get the impression he's conning people. I didn't wake up one morning and decide "I'm going to tire of this guy." That's just the way it is. I think he's got some growing up to do.
not gonna say he is conning people, but will say he wil say whatever he needs to get where he wants to go, he wants to be a relevant politician, but probably never will, and will let his ego get in teh way
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| I live here in Ohio. He's running for the gov spot and he is already running ads, ugh.. One other question about him.... What was his stance on Covid19 stuff was he for lockdowns or against?
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Partial dichotomy
| This may be simple minded, but he's a fan of Donald Trump and Trump is a fan of his. He's a strong conservative. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. For now.
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Lawyers, Guns and Money

| quote: Originally posted by 92fstech: Vivek lacks a political track record. That can be a really good thing, but as a voter I have to view somebody like that as something of a gamble. Maybe a better bet that some career swamp creature who I know is just going to continue the status quo, but a gamble nonetheless. Anyone can say the right stuff but you'd better be able to show me you can back it up.
I think walking away from DOGE was a huge mistake. It was an opportunity for him to build some credibility and put some substance behind his claims. Now the only political track record he has is leaving right when the rubber hit the road. And this was his thing...his entire campaign was focused on shredding the bureaucracy. It's all he talked about. You would think that if anyone would be prepared and excited to be a part of that it would be him. Walking away is not a good look, and it makes me less inclined to trust him.
Back during the campaign I'd have voted for him in a heartbeat had he won the nomination. In hindsight, I'm extremely happy that things went the way that they did and I didn't have to. At this point if I lived in Ohio I wouldn't be super excited about casting a vote for him to be governor. I'd definitely at least want to see what the rest of the field brings to the table.
That's about how I feel about him too. Says the right things, but he's an unknown in a leadership role.
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| I think his lack of historical pedigree is why he’s running for political office now. Even if he carpet-bags to do it, I think Ohio is part of an overall strategy that can yield success for his ultimate goal. Does that calculation feel artificial? It could depending on how things play out. Vivek is doing what throws red flags for me if he were a putrid Leftist rectum. I get the sense he is a smart and principled patriot in an environment where many are needed but only one can occupy his desired office at a time. Like DeSantis, it’s not in the cards right now but I like having him in the bullpen. I listened to him with Charlie Kirk on a university campus debating some ignoramus Leftist students. He handled their snark and dismissive attitudes well with principled counter points. I think he will do some good over time.
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