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I just noticed an icon down in the bottom right of my screen telling me an upgrade to Win11 is ready for my computer. I have Win10 now and am reading that its retirement date is October 2025. Has anyone done this yet? If so, were there any issues/problems with the upgrade? I've always been a bit leery of overlaying a new OS over an older one. Maybe MS has changed that. Thank you in advance. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | ||
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Haven't done the upgrade as my work machine isn't deemed compatible. But, I do recall that when I did the WIN7 > WIN10, it created a rollback directory that chewed up a decent amount of storage. Not sure if the 10 > 11 upgrade will do the same. I've yet to have one of our compatible newer machines come through to test the upgrade. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Oh great, is Win11 going to require a minimum of 12GB RAM to run?  | |||
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Yes I've done some upgrades. Run the W11 Compatibility tool aka PC Health Check if it passes then Download the Windows 11 Installation Assistant and it will do the upgrade. Additionally there are media creation tools for clean installations. Link > https://www.microsoft.com/en-u...e-download/windows11 Newer hardware is going to fare better for the process. Is W11 better or worth it? Nothing earth shaking, some features and some cosmetics. YMMV | |||
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I have a friend, Nathan Brindle, who i think put it best.
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Hardware requirements to install or upgrade to Windows 11, devices must meet the following minimum hardware requirements: - Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with two or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC). - RAM: 4 gigabytes (GB) or greater. - Storage: 64 GB* or greater available storage is required to install Windows 11. - Additional storage space might be required to download updates and enable specific features. - Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later, with a WDDM 2.0 driver. - System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable. - TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0. - Display: High definition (720p) display, 9" or greater monitor, 8 bits per color channel. - Internet connection: Internet connectivity is necessary to perform updates, and to download and use some features. - Windows 11 Home edition requires an Internet connection and a Microsoft Account to complete device setup on first use. * There might be additional requirements over time for updates, and to enable specific features within the operating system. Link _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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I read that as "... and the computing world has been orders-of-magnitude better, since."  (For those not aware: I detest MS-Windows and always have.) The Dell laptop my employer let me keep when I retired dual-boots MS-Win7 Pro and Linux Mint. Of all the versions of MS-Win with which I was ever obliged to deal, MS-Win7 Pro was the least egregious. True: They did some things and moved some things around for which I could determine no rhyme nor reason, and which, IME, made things less user- and admin-friendly than MS-WinXP, but it least it finally separated Administrator and User rights/access. Previous versions of MS-Windows failing to separate Administrator and User privileges was unquestionably the greatest mis-feature that made MS-Win more vulnerable, more-exploit-prone, than most other operating systems. TBH: The thing that most drove me nuts about MS-Win7 Pro was, at the end, after MS-Win10 was released, Windows Update became incredibly wonky. Sometimes I'd have to jump through no end of hoops to get an MS-Win7 Pro machine to fetch and install updates--and, even then, it could take forever-in-a-day to download and install them. I could do an initial update of a fresh install of Ubuntu or Mint Linux, which involved megabytes-upon-megabytes of updates, in a fraction of the time--including the reboot. I've never even touched an MS-Win10 installation. They started planning to deploy it at work when my retirement date was just a few months off. I refused to have anything to do with it. "I'm retiring, soon. My plate is already full. Spending any of my remaining time wrestling with a new version of MS-Win will benefit neither of us. Absolutely not." "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Nope. Let someone else be the tester. | |||
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Absolutely, it's why I am asking. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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Wall Street Journal's tech editor said hold off for now and wait for it to get built out - supposedly much of what would make it better/interesting is yet to come. WSJ: "Microsoft Released Windows 11. But Should You Upgrade?" - non-paywall link
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No. There are several issues with the requirements.
I have 64-B quad core i7's and their model numbers are not listed in the hardware list. That was my first WTF.
These appear to be issues with my desktop, but my laptop meets them. That was the final WT F-U Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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You have to have at least Intel CPU Gen 8 or greater (I don't know what AMD is _ I only support Intel) and the motherboard must have TPM 2.0. That means the Intel Chipset needs to be 300 series or greater. The TPM Module can be added via an add in module if the motherboard has a header for it. This means basically upgrading really old hardware to W11 is not possible. The source of a lot of computer problems is combability (Hardware + Software/OS) when trying to stretch real old hardware. Hardware specifications over years have made great strides and to support the real old stuff doesn't make a lot of sense if you truly want an improvement. Overall W11 is better built and lets the new hardware get it's full potential. One of my desktops is only Gen 7 and has no TPM header - NO GO. My Surface 7 (Gen 10) upgraded easily. Again is it worth it - only time will tell. YMMV | |||
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I run 2 Macs with parallels on both. I use Office and Quicken with Win10 just fine. I have no plans to upgrade (?) to 11. I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings when I called you stupid - I thought you already knew - Unknown ................................... When you have no future, you live in the past. " Sycamore Row" by John Grisham | |||
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still running XP Pro on 4 machines and Ubuntu on a 5th I installed software to prohibit MS from trying to install 10 against my wishes (its my machine) when I am retired from work, I will junk the 4 XP Pro machines and just run Linux no way in hell will I contemplate 11 | |||
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TPM 2 & proc age/gen (i7-4600U Haswell/4th gen) are what's keeping my work computer on Win10 Trying to avoid upgrading to a new one until it's truly needed, as the budget hit will be like ordering 5 of our field machines, to spec out a similar new Latitude. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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I what I’m seeing here it looks like MS has completely ripped off the Chrome OS interface in Windows 11 | |||
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My worst problems with Windows have been when the machine was sold with a version and later upgraded. Even versions like Vista were OK when they came on the machine when new. Then there's the issue of other software that will not be compatible and need a new "improved" version to work. I'll be an interested observer for now. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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My understanding is, if it’s an Intel chip set, you may be OK as Microsoft and Intel did a lot of collaboration while MS was developing Win 11. AMD, not so much. Win 11, depending on the chip set, can run as much as 40# slower. Beware of the repeated advertisement/pop-ups wanting you to upgrade. When Vista was released, I believe I recall hearing that eventually without a solid NO, it gets upgraded anyway. I don’t know that there’s a reversal available for Win 11. ———- Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for thou art crunchy and taste good with catsup. | |||
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I just bought a Dell XPS 13 laptop and upgraded to Win11. So far, it seems pretty fast. Startup/shutdown are noticeably faster. No other issues. The changes in use and operation aren't that dramatic. They've added more icons/graphics to menus (like right-click), so more of them trying to copy Apple. No regrets...yet. ________________________________________ -- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -- | |||
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My primary reason for first seeking to upgrade, was to UAT/guinea pig it for our multiple work programs & ensure it was all functionally compatible. May have to try to upgrade one of the newer field machines & use it as a beta tester. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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