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Traffic Stop Meltdown

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April 23, 2025, 07:56 PM
Lt CHEG
Traffic Stop Meltdown
After 20+ years in law enforcement and dealing with lots of stuff I’m pretty cynical and sometimes pretty darn jaded about the repeat offenders, really bad guys, those that victimize children etc. I say with full sincerity that I truly, legitimately feel sorry for this young woman. She is quite clearly not in control of her faculties. I give those officers tremendous credit for handling things as professionally they did. Handling folks that are profoundly mentally ill doesn’t always require people to just stand back and let things happen, sometimes physical force must be utilized to prevent someone from hurting themselves or someone else and these officers did that excellently here. I hope this young lady is able to receive the treatment that she clearly, desperately needs. This is what policing is really like today.




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April 23, 2025, 08:15 PM
2000Z-71
My heart goes out to the ER staff that had to deal with her after the arrest.




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April 23, 2025, 08:15 PM
John Steed
In the second video it was reported that all charges were dropped.

Where did this take place?

Did they at least take her driver's license away? How can anyone that unstable be allowed behind the wheel of a car?



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April 23, 2025, 08:19 PM
StorminNormin
quote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
After 20+ years in law enforcement and dealing with lots of stuff I’m pretty cynical and sometimes pretty darn jaded about the repeat offenders, really bad guys, those that victimize children etc. I say with full sincerity that I truly, legitimately feel sorry for this young woman. She is quite clearly not in control of her faculties. I give those officers tremendous credit for handling things as professionally they did. Handling folks that are profoundly mentally ill doesn’t always require people to just stand back and let things happen, sometimes physical force must be utilized to prevent someone from hurting themselves or someone else and these officers did that excellently here. I hope this young lady is able to receive the treatment that she clearly, desperately needs. This is what policing is really like today.


Couldn’t agree more.




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April 23, 2025, 08:21 PM
konata88
I've lived a pretty long time. Shorter than some of you but still pretty a good stretch of time. Perhaps somewhat sheltered and isolated from much of the realities of the world. But I still consider myself aware.

In all of this time, I've used the word crazy but it remained an abstraction.

Crazy now has a face and is no longer abstract. I know now what it looks like.




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April 23, 2025, 08:30 PM
StorminNormin
Looked her up through completely public available sources and gee what do you know, she just had another encounter YESTERDAY 4/22/25. Wonder how that went.




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April 23, 2025, 08:37 PM
OcCurt
All she wants s Wingstop…!
April 23, 2025, 08:49 PM
sigmonkey
quote:
Originally posted by John Steed:...
Where did this take place?
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Lake County, Illinois




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April 23, 2025, 08:54 PM
vthoky
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
quote:
Originally posted by John Steed:...
Where did this take place?
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Lake County, Illinois


Man, I'd be mighty tempted to send that PD a big ol' gift card to the local pizza-and-beer house for having put up with that girl.

And like others, I hope and have prayed that this girl can get the help she very clearly appears to need.




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April 23, 2025, 09:30 PM
synthplayer
I sincerely wish she'd take a swing at a female cop and in return, the female cop beat the ever-loving snot out of her.



I found what you said riveting.
April 23, 2025, 10:01 PM
arfmel
She needs to stay away from espresso
April 23, 2025, 10:29 PM
Rightwire
I think it's time for police departments to be done with this whole "I demand a supervisor" thing.

I can't imagine a city with 10+ officers on duty, each having to call for a Sgt or Lt every time they execute a traffic stop or encounter someone who has attended the YouTube college of law. All those supervisors would do all night is run from one egotistic moron to another.

I'd love to see an officer say "I am the supervisor for the area, how can I help you"




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April 23, 2025, 10:32 PM
220-9er
That lady is going to hurt somebody or herself if they don’t get her some help.


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April 23, 2025, 10:50 PM
Rick Lee
That's not an entitled Karen. She's seriously mentally ill and it's very obvious from her first words. It's really sad that people like her make it to that age without being institutionalized and only released if successfully treated.

This is the kind of nutbag who has no problem passing a NICS check because she never gets a felony charge or involuntary commitment.


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April 23, 2025, 10:53 PM
parabellum
Oh yeah. Her little riverboat captain has fled the wheelhouse.
April 24, 2025, 05:30 AM
robbiedog
I think this is like Sam Kinison reincarnated as an evil woman.
April 24, 2025, 05:34 AM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
My heart goes out to the ER staff that had to deal with her after the arrest.


Just a dose of vitamin H and all was well.





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April 24, 2025, 05:40 AM
Lt CHEG
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
My heart goes out to the ER staff that had to deal with her after the arrest.


Just a dose of vitamin H and all was well.


I often saw the cocktail of Haldol and Ativan administered, and the results were truly amazing to watch. Like flipping a switch.




“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
April 24, 2025, 08:41 AM
2000Z-71
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
My heart goes out to the ER staff that had to deal with her after the arrest.


Just a dose of vitamin H and all was well.

Depends on the doc and the situation.

Some take the Marlin Perkins approach of tranquilizing the white rhino from the helicopter. A B-52 (Benadryl 25mg, 5mg Haldol and 2mg Ativan) is one of the standard cocktails. Most of the time it works. Other times depending on the patient, their level of tolerance and what may be stimulating them, it may not. Then we start looking at Precedex drips and Ketamine. Then there's my favorite, Zyprexa administered IV. It's almost instaneous. "I'M GOING TO KICK YOURzzzzzzzz."

Others docs may take a minimalist approach. Their thinking is if we snow the patient we're stuck with them until it wears off. That can be a tremendous pain in the ass to the nursing staff in that it takes our time to babysit and takes away from the care of other patients.

Then there's the fun part of restraints. Once they're in 4 points, charting every 15 minutes is required. Corporate also got sued and now we're supposed to fill out a survey for race, sex, creed, etc. of the patients we place in restraints. I refuse to do this, one does not have to be of a certain race to be an asshole.




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April 24, 2025, 09:47 AM
Cookster
After watching the first video in its entirety, the eye-rolls, shoulder shrugs, two word grunted answers to my questions, and “Dad, your jokes suck.” from my almost 17 year old daughter doesn’t seem too bad now.

Kudos to the professionalism of the LEO’s that have had interact with her.


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