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Stealth technology now obsolete?????

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February 28, 2017, 08:59 AM
cruiser68
Stealth technology now obsolete?????
China’s claim it has ‘quantum’ radar may leave $17 billion F-35 naked

CHINA claims it has a radical new ‘quantum’ radar capable of detecting stealth fighters at great distances. Does this mean our ultra-expensive new F-35 is obsolete, even before we get it?

http://www.news.com.au/technol...7d21a9f36e54b6f0fbab
February 28, 2017, 09:05 AM
Hound Dog
Yeah, like I'm going to believe anything China says. . .



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February 28, 2017, 09:08 AM
cslinger
If I really had this capability the last thing I would tell you is that I had this cababity.

But maybe that's just me.


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February 28, 2017, 09:09 AM
83v45magna
Maybe or maybe not. But it doesn't cost them anything to say it, does it?
February 28, 2017, 09:11 AM
Crom
The Emperor's new "Quantum Cloak" is exquisitely beautiful!


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February 28, 2017, 09:12 AM
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February 28, 2017, 09:12 AM
sigmonkey
Yes. Like a firearm is useless because you might see it when it is pointed at you.

All such advancments in the World of Weapons Systems is limited in its effectivness and starts the road to obsolencence before the ink is dry on the drawing board.

You simply have to drive an anchor point now, with the best you have, and get it into service as fast as possible, bearing in mind the; sigmonkey 3E=4 fomula™.

Effecient
Effective
Economical

If it is those three, it will be;

Excellent. The fourth E.

Always strive for the fourth E.




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February 28, 2017, 09:13 AM
Skins2881
It's fine, don't worry. It will only work for 31 days and they will be screwed when Harbor freight tells them it's only a 30 day return window.



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February 28, 2017, 09:35 AM
sorenson
They would really only have something like that if we had it first so that they could steal it and copy it.
s.


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February 28, 2017, 09:36 AM
flesheatingvirus
Since nobody else has it and China only 'innovates' by stealing, I'm going to conclude that this is BS.


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February 28, 2017, 09:38 AM
erj_pilot
China can't manufacture a gd Phillips-head screw that won't strip with more than 1.8 lbs. of torque applied. And they invented a radar that renders stealth obsolete??

BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



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February 28, 2017, 09:57 AM
ryan81986
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
Since nobody else has it and China only 'innovates' by stealing, I'm going to conclude that this is BS.


I swear that the last thing China invented on their own was black powder.




February 28, 2017, 10:00 AM
erj_pilot
quote:
Originally posted by ryan81986:
I swear that the last thing China invented on their own was black powder.

That's racist... Razz



"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
February 28, 2017, 11:22 AM
icom706
If it is created by man, it can also be overcome by man. To paraphrase Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

All stealth technology does, is reduce the echo (RF signal) going back to the source. Improve the receiver at the source and less and less signal receipt is required to 'see'. I've seen some RF technology at the plain Amateur Radio level that is freaking cool. Now figure that the military is at least 15+ years ahead in what I have access to.

If I recall, the Czech's claimed to have tracked a F-117 over Bosnia back in the '90s. Again, just tweaking the receiver.

Also, even stealth aircraft cause 'atmospheric turbulence', which does differ at altitudes. Still, if we can detect wind-shears and other wind anomalies, we can't be too far away from detecting 'aircraft turbulence' at distance.


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February 28, 2017, 11:28 AM
Augen
Akin to Regan telling the commies we were investing in SDI when it couldn't be done. But it made the commies invest heavily when they couldn't afford it.
February 28, 2017, 11:31 AM
PorterN
They're taking one out of NKorea's book and making fun and outlandish weapons claims? Lil Kim may not be happy about that.



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February 28, 2017, 02:22 PM
P220 Smudge
Hoo boy, they're pitching Reagan's Star Wars right back at us. How cute! Razz


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February 28, 2017, 02:33 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
If I really had this capability the last thing I would tell you is that I had this cababity.


Bingo.

Besides, the only way that China could have developed such a thing is if someone else invented it and they copied it.
February 28, 2017, 02:43 PM
PASig
China is full of shit.

They CANNOT innovate anything, all they can do is copy and imitate what others have done.


February 28, 2017, 02:46 PM
zoom6zoom
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
China can't manufacture a gd Phillips-head screw that won't strip with more than 1.8 lbs. of torque applied. And they invented a radar that renders stealth obsolete??

BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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