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Caribou gorn
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bigger tires, level out the rake, approach angle, looks, low cost.



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Posts: 10686 | Location: Marietta, GA | Registered: February 10, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Just to note, there is a difference between a body lift and a suspension lift. I only like a body lift to give you a little extra room underneath when working on things. That extra inch or so is often the difference between a wrench or a socket. They serve a purpose other than that, but to me that's their biggest benefit.
 
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I'm going to guess you have not been to a good old fashioned redneck mud bog event. Big Grin I posted a youtube of one such event to give you an idea why in some cases getting the body up helps.

Much of the that look comes from mud bogging. It CAN help limiting water and mud from the electrical, engine, and cab. Some also increase suspension travel from a little to a lot.

 
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So many chunky redneck girls, so little time.



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Originally posted by SkyOtter:
The purpose of lifting a truck is so you can fit larger tires for real additional clearance. If you don't, it's just an interesting exercise with no real benefits. There's a limit to how much you can lift without affecting the geometry and requiring a much more expensive truck mod.


What he said. Can't put a 38" tire under most stock bodies, they'll rub when turning lock to lock. There are times when folks try and take it to an extreme and you'll see something with 44"+ tires "for mudding" likely to never see any dirt at all. The one that gets me is the huge body/suspension lifts and relatively normal sized tires. My brother had a truck like this and it looked ridiculous.

The only lift I normally like is the leveling kits required of most trucks now. Effectively, it brings the nose level with the rear but can potentially change the on road handling.


Aerodynamics also, the lower front is potentially an aid to higher fuel mileage too. Very slight but just one small part of the design package to reduce frontal drag.


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Pretty much any of the major brand lifts for trucks with independent front suspension are strictly for looks. They lower the front diff to keep CV shaft angles in check. They also don’t add any wheel travel.
 
Posts: 2246 | Location: New Hampshire | Registered: February 25, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Body lifts are cheap and easy compared to bigger wheels and tires and suspension lifts. It's pretty much a poor man's way to have the "jacked up" truck look.
 
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check out the Portal Axle designs
for real clearance


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Surprised nobody's mentioned that in the random pic, there's been some serious fab and mod work. That generation GM came with torsion bar IFS. That one's got a solid front axle, dual coilovers at each corner, it appears to have hydraulic rams for steering, and more...
And with GMs typically having more squared-off wheel openings you really have to get the body WAAAAAY up to run big wide tires like that and have any turning radius or axle flex while turning. Even in the dunes/ beaches your axles are going to flex.




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I wish that instead of these mega lifts portal axels were a realistic option. https://www.mercedes-benz.com/...the-g-class-squared/


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thanks bb61 , I had my eyes on the full sized unimogs, ( when I hit the big lottery )
but that would be great for around the cities.

I like big trucks
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I had my eyes on the full sized unimogs, ( when I hit the big lottery )


There's a neat business in my neck of the woods that specializes in Unimogs and other European military surplus trucks. It's called "Swiss Army Vehicles". I drive by their lot frequently. They have some unique stuff.

http://www.swissarmyvehicles.com/
 
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Wheel travel on uneven surface.


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A body mount lift can allow for larger tires or reduce rubbing inside wheel wells. Also, a body lift with a mild motor mount lift kit can allow you to install a belly up skidplate. This reduces clearance issues at the transmission and transfer case without running into driveline issues.
 
Posts: 1134 | Location: Tampa Bay Area | Registered: November 14, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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As others have said, there are 2 main kinds of lift - body lift and suspension lift.

Body lifts are junk IMHO.

Suspension lift provides a lot of benefits (given that they are not too tall and shift the center of gravity too much):

1) Break-over angle (most important in my experience)
2) Approach angle (2nd most important but you can use front tire placement to overcome a lack of approach angle)
3) Departure angle (less important as you can drag your ass and get off an obstacle)
4) Keep your transmission, transfer case, air intake out of the water
5) Bigger tires
 
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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
With a straight axle the only way to gain additional ground clearance is to fit a larger tire. Even with an independent front suspension, most lift kits include brackets to lower the front axle to maintain angles on the the halfshafts.


Portal axles. Wink. Dang someone beat me to it ^^^ haha oh well...


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Posts: 5569 | Location: Vermont | Registered: March 02, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by konata88:
Now that I have a truck, I'm more aware of other trucks on the road (in terms of how they are configured).

I notice that some trucks, the body are lifted considerably over stock height. But the differentials are still wheel level.

I can see why one would lift the body and all parts underneath for more clearance. But why would one lift just the body but keep things like the differential at stock height?

Is there some benefit of raising the body but not really needing more clearance? There is a reason why raising the body but keeping the diff low is good?

Not important. Just curious.


There is no way to lift the differential except by going to larger tires on a straight axle, which pretty much all trucks have in the rear.

While I'm not a fan of body lifts they can allow you to run larger tires, which lifts the differential by half of the increased tire height, they may also allow a steeper approach or departure angle in offroad terrain.


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Originally posted by konata88:
I was wondering about trucks like this (random pic off the interwebz)

http://images.mautofied.com/ad...6_20079241255151.JPG


That's called compensation. For other...ummmmm..."shortcomings". Big Grin




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Besides truck suspension and body mods for clearance, there is trail strategy to optimize clearance. Drive your wheels over the largest obstacle and the rest of the undercarriage will escape damage.......mostly. There is the weak spot right behind the tires that can get whacked, but with sliders and careful course line selection you can navigate most any obstacles. I've seen guys with moderate tire sizes and lifts do very well with front and rear lockers.



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