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Here's my take on it. It depends on your POV. You look at your available resources: Tech and People. Which do you have an abundance of and which do you value more?

If you don't have much tech and people are cheap, you throw what have more of and cheaper at any conflict to fix it. That's what the US is facing with third world countries and, to a certain extent, China. They have plenty of people to throw into an armed conflict.

The US have an aversion to seeing its young people die and we do have plenty of tech. So that's what we go with.

Yes but it won't work. I've said it before many times in this forum. The enemy will send untold volumes of cheap munitions our way, and we will use one 2 million dollar missile to shoot down each and every one of their cheap ass rockets. Then we'll run out of 2 million dollar missiles and 20 million dollar drones, and eventually we will run completely out of high tech munitions shooting down all their cheap shit. Then the enemy will open their next box of cheap munitions, and bomb the hell out of us, and then we will lose key battles because all our best stuff has run out and blown up and sunk. And because we don't have large stocks of conventional munitions and weapons systems to fight our enemies shooting down all their cheap ass munitions and destroying all their punk ass weapons systems, we will run out of bullets, so to speak, right as the enemy is opening up their second box of cheap shit. And then we will start compromising our war plans and losing key battles because we're running out of million dollar bullets. I heard a couple weeks ago the British were shooting down gasoline driven drones and rockets with 2 million dollar guided missiles. I don't think we're any smarter than they are. General Jack Keane understands this, I heard him allude to this aspect of war after Russia began the invasion of Ukraine. You can see it coming. We don't have enough high tech materiel to fight against all our enemies in the Middle East, China, and the Russians. And the complete and total stupidity of relying solely on extremely expensive high tech munitions and weapons systems is fucking asinine in my mind. It's a ticking time bomb. Our enemies know this, but unfortunately we don't. To me it's common sense, but this line of common sense isn't common at all in the US, Capital Hill, or the Pentagon. Isn't it ironic that by putting ALL our fucking eggs in high tech bullets, we are writing our own epitaph since the only thing we will have left is millions of boxes of 9mm harball, and Intercontinental Nuclear Ballistic Missles. Yea that's the ticket, we always have those as a last resort. Unfortunately we could easily avoid the last resort with a little more fucking ass common sense.


That assumes we use the wrong strategy, which in this administration and current military leadership, may not be too far off. But assuming actual military strategists and tacticians at the helm, then there are better strategies than what you've outlined.

Your strategy is like saying, "We're building an chess set military but we'll deploy them like checkers."



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Your strategy is like saying, "We're building a chess set military but we'll deploy them like checkers."


Trying to put reason to the wall of text is difficult.




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Your strategy is like saying, "We're building a chess set military but we'll deploy them like checkers."


Trying to put reason to the wall of text is difficult.


Long story short, his theory is that we’ll expend multi-million dollar arsenal to defend against cheap weaponry on an almost one to one attrition. We’ll soon run out or multi-million dollar weaponry while they’ll still have lots of cheap arsenal and we’ll be overrun.



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Exactly. Thank You.




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Even more to the point we are experiencing it right now, as we speak. Go to the other Houthi thread and read about our Navy defending the shipping lanes.

The Houthis are sending "drones". These are cheap as shit to produce. We then shoot down a 5000 dollar drone with a 2,000,000 dollar Standard SM2 from a nearly billion dollar cruiser or destroyer. That is not hard math to figure out.

Every single time we shoot down a drone with a missile that is literally capable of downing a ballistic entry vehicle (ie, very high tech, very capable) we lose. It is crazy.

You only win that exchange by destroying their ability to launch these. They can literally make hundreds of thousands if not more "drones". How many Standard SM2's can we afford to shoot at off the shelf technology that costs pennies to the dollar?

If you need another example, here is another easy one. Iron Dome vs WWII technology rockets in Israel. The cost analysis on that one is very one sided.
 
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