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June 14, 2017, 11:48 AM
justjoe
From 2017- Virginia GOP baseball practice shooting: Multiple people shot
(Psst, let it go, Balze. You made a dumb comment. We all do it. Wink)


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June 14, 2017, 11:48 AM
SIGguy229
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:

It appears she was shot by the gunman.

From a Washington Post article:

"Fillus said a police agent pulled out a gun and tried to shoot back. She was screaming, “ ‘Drop your weapon!’ And he shot her and she fell on the ground."

Link - https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.dfcb92752a12


If he's shooting, why is she yelling? I'm glad she took him down...
June 14, 2017, 11:50 AM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by justjoe:
(Psst, let it go, Balze. You made a dumb comment. We all do it. Wink)


Hey, I'm trying to backpedal here!


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June 14, 2017, 11:54 AM
arcwelder
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The guy was obviously a terrible shot or just never practiced with his rifle. He probably never even sighted it in. Guy had the element of surprise and only managed to hit the congressman in the hip.

And, Uh, about the female officer who was shot in the foot. Am I the only one who suspects that she shot herself in the foot by accident? Just an assumption...

And for the antigun jerks, just think about the fact that this loser with a rifle and a handgun managed to kill no one. Remind me again how many people were killed recently by terrorists with only knives and trucks? Thought so. Carry on.


What are you thinking?

Why are you posting something like this?

First, to criticize the shooters marksmanship, then to accuse a first responder of shooting themselves?

The hell is wrong with you? Please think before you post.


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June 14, 2017, 11:55 AM
Doc H.
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Originally posted by justjoe:
Two things kept this from being a mass shooting. This loser could not shoot straight. And Scalise had a security detail with him to shoot back.

This could have been much, much worse.


I imagine one of the last thoughts in his scrambled socialist brain was surprise that there were individuals there armed, in Alexandria, who would shoot back. Better than him. Surprise!



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June 14, 2017, 11:55 AM
Pipe Smoker
Yeah, we're lucky that Hodgkinson was such an inept marksman. I would that he survived – I'd've liked to see the SOB on trial.



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June 14, 2017, 11:57 AM
RHINOWSO
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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Yeah, we're lucky that Hodgkinson was such an inept marksman.
Agreed.

Surprise attack with a rifle and pistol. Lots of chaos but the only person killed was the perp.

Pretty crappy shooting by the perp, just on numbers alone.
June 14, 2017, 11:59 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:

What are you thinking?

Why are you posting something like this?

First, to criticize the shooters marksmanship, then to accuse a first responder of shooting themselves?

The hell is wrong with you? Please think before you post.


I agree the comment about the first responder was dumb.

Don't get your admonishment concerning my comment about an obviously unskilled shooter.


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June 14, 2017, 12:00 PM
MagnumU
First, thoughts and prayers for all those injured by the assailant. Second, no criticism of the officers involved. I have never been in that situation, and hope never to be.

My concern is with the reports of a "Drop your weapon" command when dealing with an active shooter. Is this part of Capitol Police training or general police training? It makes no sense to me when you have an active shooter. Seems like it poses unjustifiable risks to the officer and anyone in the field of fire.
June 14, 2017, 12:03 PM
RHINOWSO
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Don't get your admonishment concerning my comment about an obviously unskilled shooter.

Yeah, that's puzzling.
June 14, 2017, 12:08 PM
Rightwire
The constant negative crap in the media and from TV personalities is fueling this crap. They can take their self-righteous "it's just entertainment, only a sicko takes it seriously" dodge and shove it in return for some responsibility




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June 14, 2017, 12:09 PM
nhracecraft
Once again, the work of a Violent & Intolerant Left-Wing Extremist!


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June 14, 2017, 12:13 PM
BMR
Since the shooter was a Bernie campaign volunteer, there needs to be an investigation into collusion between him and Crazy Bernie to influence Republican lawmakers.


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June 14, 2017, 12:17 PM
Rightwire
CNN wasted no time getting Bernie condemning the attack by one of his volunteers on TV as fast as possible. Good job.




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June 14, 2017, 12:17 PM
dsiets
I wonder if this was the shooters attempt at sighting in his rifle?
quote:
Police most recently encountered Hodgkinson on March 24, records from the St. Clair County Sheriff show. The sheriff received a phone call reporting about 50 shots “in the pine trees” in a lightly populated area near Belleville.

A deputy responded shortly after 3:05 p.m. and found that Hodgkinson “did have in his possession a valid Illinois FOID [firearms owner identification] card,” and that the deputy advised Hodgkinson “to not discharge his weapon in the area.”

Hodgkinson apparently complied and the deputy left without taking any further action.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.4a3ca28d4c97
June 14, 2017, 12:20 PM
SkyOtter
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My concern is with the reports of a "Drop your weapon" command when dealing with an active shooter. Is this part of Capitol Police training or general police training? It makes no sense to me when you have an active shooter. Seems like it poses unjustifiable risks to the officer and anyone in the field of fire.


I believe that "Drop your weapon"is deeply ingrained in automatic police response. Who wants to be sued for not giving the perp a chance to surrender?


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June 14, 2017, 12:22 PM
parabellum
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Originally posted by 229DAK:
They are saying he used an AR-15 style rifle/carbine (M4). Oh, the antis will love that! Wait for it..."We must ban assault rifles!" Oh, wait...our fookin' governor is already at it. "
Cut it out. Damn, man, that shit is old. No one's going to take your rifle.
June 14, 2017, 12:25 PM
TMats
You don't want to visit HuffPo and read all the ignorant comments connected to the shooting. Many, many blaming...well, you can guess.

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June 14, 2017, 12:27 PM
parabellum
You guys want to use this incident to talk about and worry about gun control? I'll just lock the damn thing.

Let's get our priorities straight, please. If you guys just want to start a bunch of gun control talk, we don't need this thread.


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June 14, 2017, 12:30 PM
bald1
Oh yeah I just love the fact that the FBI (fumbling bureau of ineptitude) is spending significant resources investigating the phony GOP-Russian business yet facebook pages filled with anti-Trump and anti-GOP HATE remain apparently unchallenged. Given that the senior FBI leadership is progressive this is no suprise.

This same FBI says they aren't sure of the motive and don't know if GOP members were really targeted. Eh? What? This in response to witnesses and the shooter's own proclamations. Gesh what a bunch of bozos!

Also note the significant similarities between Madrassas and the MSM-DNC-Soros triumvirate in preaching HATE and basically brainwashing the left leaning skulls full of mush. This 66 year old shooter is a prime example of their product in my view.



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