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I dare say that the phrase, "Do as I say, not as I do", does apply here. Roll Eyes

Got to say, though, he's going to need to fire all of his security detail. Slow walking and allowing the guy to fire five shots? Ridiculous.


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"Movement Against Violence"

I looked them up. They're only against sexual violence and their FB page is full of libtarded concepts such as trigger warnings, oppressive powers of misogyny, the biological reality of men, consent isn't good enough as women are conditioned from young age to say yes, etc.

In other words, full blow commie so not surprised they'd try to murder their way to their utopia.



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I dare say that the phrase, "Do as I say, not as I do", does apply here. Roll Eyes

Got to say, though, he's going to need to fire all of his security detail. Slow walking and allowing the guy to fire five shots? Ridiculous.

Not sure there's anything they could've done.
The Prez goes to meet the people in a the country that doesn't have a history of political assassinations or, harm, let alone public violence, and this guy pulls his piece right in front of him.
There was plenty of security around, both sides of the barrier, if anything they could've been right up against the president and pulled him.
 
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^^^ Five shots? The security guys were right there. And, the shots were not even rapid fire. Watch the video. After 2 shots, the guys were all over the shooter, but he still managed to get off 3 more shots. I know I'm armchair QB here, but still.


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That'll teach him not to reject the WHO ""Global Pandemic Accord"" Eek
 
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Prime Minister Fico is a good guy, right?


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Prime Minister Fico is a good guy, right?


Depends on who you ask.
He's a goddamn Russian sympathizer.
He'd love to deliver Slovakia back over to Russian rule.
Fuck him.
Who knows why a Russian paramilitary group tried to kill him.





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I'm just here for the irony.
 
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Political assassination attempts, or nutbags seeking fame by targeting high-profile politicians, are of course not unheard of in Europe; offhand, I can recall some in Germany, Spain, Sweden and the UK from the last two decades. But hits on national leaders are very rare, definitely after the era of classic Cold War terrorism. Accordingly, there's not the same security culture surrounding them as, say, the US. But obviously the unpredictable crazy lone wolf will get lucky some time no matter what, even if security is not as slow on the take as they looked here.

From what is known about the suspect, he may be one of those, as his politics appear to have been broadly in line with Fico's despite not having voted for him and rejecting some of his measures, per acquaintances. Per the Slovakian interior minister, he was upset about Fico's ally Peter Pellegrini being elected president in April though. And yeah, founding a "movement against violence" (apparently after he was attacked on his job as a mall cop in 2016), then shooting the prime minister is extremely ironic.

As for Fico, he's an Orban-type opportunistic populist who really has no ideology other than coming to and staying in power, ensured by cronyism and kleptocracy. Though unlike Viktor Orban, who was an avowed anti-communist before he declared Western market capitalism to be dead and authoritarian systems like Russia, China and Turkey to be the future in his infamous 2014 speech on "illiberal democracy", nominally he's a left-winger; joined the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia in 1987, after 1990 rose to vice chairman of the post-communist SDL, split from them in 1999 and founded the Social Democratic Smer (Direction).

He had three (partial) terms as PM 2006-2018 in which he was accused of turning Slovakia into a corrupt mafia state, culminating in the murder of a couple of investigative journalists which brought down his government. Last year he was re-elected by seizing on the usual bones of contention in polarized Western societies - Ukraine, EU, NATO, COVID, LGBTQ, what have you. Which has been described by left-trending media as him "moving to the right", but as frequently noted, the same resentments are being exploited by the far Left and Right, to the point they become indistinguishable.
 
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A leftist hypocrite? Interesting. In other news, water is determined to be wet…




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As a Serbian member on another board put it, a majority of Eastern European politicians don't really care about "left-" or "right-wing" alignment, because most parties there are primarily interest groups for business deals. He once elegantly stated that "economic policies are a means to tighten their control, control is a way to prevent criticism when economic policies fail". Left-trending media tend to focus on nominal right-wingers like Orban or the last Polish government (though I'd credit the latter with some actual ideological convictions) shunting government contracts and EU subsidies to their cronies who also buy up independent media to bring them on a pro-government line, supported by changing media regulation, voting laws, and organization of the judiciary, putting sympathizers in crucial positions while distracting voters with claims about threats by immigrants, gypsies, homosexuals, the EU (which actually props their countries up with the subsidies they use to fuel their system), etc. But the fact is, nominal left-wingers like Fico or the former Social Democratic government of Romania are doing just the same.

Consider this: Viktor Orban, the former anti-communist who cut his political teeth on demanding Soviet withdrawl from Hungary and today presents himself as a defender of traditional Christian Europe, is best buddies with both the former communist Fico and nationalist Serbian president Aleksandar Vucis, even though his political spiel includes claims to former Hungarian lands in both Slovakia and Serbia; with both Turkish president Recep T. Erdogan, the self-appointed defender of the Palestinian people and supporter of Hamas, and Benjamin Netanyahu, whose current government's first action was changing the law banning convicted felons from government posts so he could make some of his allies with a record for tax fraud cabinet ministers, and subsequently tried to neuter the Israeli supreme court while also trying to take control of the national election committee, etc.; and with both former KGB officer Vladimir Putin who is currently trying to recreate the Soviet Union, and nominal communist Xi Jinping with whom his government recently signed an agreement allowing Chinese security forces to patrol Chinese business interests and tourist areas in Hungary, like they already do in Serbia.

It helps that the European far Left and Right are traditionally both big-government ideologies tending towards a degree of economic dirigism, public welfare, control of individual freedoms, etc. These days, add military anti-interventionism, anti-immigration policies, and a whole lot of other stuff that broadly comes unter "anti-globalism", directed against the current global order widely governed by Western liberal free-market values as long promoted by the hegemonial power of the US; thus frequently pro-Russian and pro-Chinese in hopes that those two will lead to overcome the system. While younger leftists have gone for the whole woke intersectionalist social justice type of issues, the populists are seizing on those traditional common values, heavily steeped in fashionable conspiracy theory. In Germany, former communist hardliner Sahra Wagenknecht recently formed her own party after long complaining that her previous Left Party had abandonded the working class. She promptly snapped up six points from the right-wing AfD in polls when the latter suffered a string of scandals, which goes to show you can catch voters with the same broad issues, no matter whether you put a left- or right-wing label on them.
 
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