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Hello!

I used google and quickly became overwhelmed. I found pre-made bug out bags on amazon for $50 and suspect they would be fine for my needs. But I would like to hear from those with experience in the matter. What do I need?

Situation will likely be out exploring from a camper campsite out in the Rockies in Wyoming. Ninety percent of our time is day hiking, rock hunting, varmint shooting, and general enjoyment of the scenery. Rarely climb anything very tall.

Thank you in advance!

Jim


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So... You are looking for recommendations for a day pack and related gear for a hike from an established campsite, right?


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Yes sir, I think that sums it up.

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I bookmarked this one hour video a couple years ago and I re-watch is every six months or so. Pretty sound advice from this guy.

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So... You are looking for recommendations for a day pack and related gear for a hike from an established campsite, right?


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Yes sir, I think that sums it up.


So it sounds like not really a bug out bag but a backpack and gear to get around for a day out in the middle nowhere and some extras in case things don't go right.

I spend time in some semi-remote places. Gear depends on conditions and some other things. Are you looking for like extra clothes, small first aid stuff, extra food, shelter?

Not sure really what you looking for.

BTW what's between your ears is the most important thing. Knowing how to move, navigate and deal with different situations is king over any piece of gear.

I can give you gear advice though if I understand what your looking for.


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REI carries excellent gear, and had educational resources available online.
Here is their day hike gear check list-
https://www.rei.com/learn/expe...iking-checklist.html



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Hello!

Thank you to those who posted links or emailed me lists. Very helpful!

I guess I am looking for a day pack.

Thanks again!

Jim


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We have been very happy with the fit and durability of the Osprey line of backpacks. They have a nice mesh back panel that holds the pack slightly off your back so you don’t sweat too much and they fit well. Here is the updated version of the one we have.


https://www.rei.com/product/11...stratos-34-pack-mens


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Every fall I go elk hunting. 2 or 3 of us hike in 7 miles with 6 - 8 llamas to setup a base camp. From there we hunt for 5 - 7 days. I use the REI day pack below. It's discontinued, but I love my pack. It's designed to carry a hydration bladder (CamelBak), which I view as essential for any day pack. I go with a 2 liter bladder over the standard 1 liter. I also usually carry an additional 32 oz of water in a Nalgene bottle.

I usually take enough stuff so I don't die if I get lost. 1 large Mtn House meal and candy bars/energy bars. I also carry several things to start a fire with and a space blanket in case I need to spend a night lost. A Jet boil is a must for cooking the Mtn House meals. I also have to pack enough bags and gear to field dress the elk if I get one.

It's a balancing act between being able to stuff enough gear in case you get lost, and not having a pack so heavy you have a hard time walking around. I probably do 2 - 5 miles per day looking for elk.

Since you are going to be field dressing an animal you could probably get a smaller pack.

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ETA: 1 thing I like about my pack is I can lay it down and unzip the entire large compartment. I have a buddy who can't do this. He always seems to need something that's buried and he has to take a lot of stuff out of his pack to find what he's looking for. I'd suggest getting a pack that you can unzip the entire circumference.
 
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The bag is not as important as what is in it, IMHO. After crossing the country multiple times over four years, often with very very little notice, I got better at packing. And knowing what I can leave behind.

Good strap, watch the weight, many items can have multiple uses. A piece of good chrome tape, for instance, can repair metal, cloth, etc, and also be used for emergency stitches. It takes up almost no weight.

I've got several bags but an adjustable shoulder strap is on all of them.
 
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You want a lightweight 25-40 liter pack with either an aluminum frame stay or HDPE frame sheet with a load bearing waist strap. Smaller is better.

The REI Ruckpack and Trail series of backs are phenomenal values in this category. Osprey makes great packs as well.

In it, for a day trip from a Basecamp, you will need the 10 essentials. Google it for about a million ways to put together the 10 essentials.
 
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For my last long multi-day hike, I skipped out on a water bladder and went with 1 liter Nalgene bottles. I much prefer the bottles for versatility, ease of filling from a filtration device, cleaning after adding electrolytes, and durability over a water bladder now. Hygiene was also much improved, especially if sharing water with someone.

I also noticed that I hydrated more when using a bottle. I can take big gulps instead of sips from a tube, and found it easier to drink my fill at a stream and refill my bottle, whereas my hiking buddies were reluctant to unpack their bags to get their bladders out. They would drink from my bottle because it was easier to refill.
 
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Hello!

Thank you for all the input!

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For my last long multi-day hike, I skipped out on a water bladder and went with 1 liter Nalgene bottles. I much prefer the bottles for versatility, ease of filling from a filtration device, cleaning after adding electrolytes, and durability over a water bladder now. Hygiene was also much improved, especially if sharing water with someone.

I also noticed that I hydrated more when using a bottle. I can take big gulps instead of sips from a tube, and found it easier to drink my fill at a stream and refill my bottle, whereas my hiking buddies were reluctant to unpack their bags to get their bladders out. They would drink from my bottle because it was easier to refill.


I agree with all of this. My wife and I go camping and day hiking about a dozen times a year and neither of us use camelback/water bladders anymore. We backpack on 3-5 days trips once or twice a year, ripped out the bladders from our backpacks. Nalgene 24oz flip tops for day to day drinking, 32oz and 48oz "silo" wide mouth for storage on backpack sides or to drink throughout the day. Wide mouth and flip top OTG are interchangable.

I find bottles to be superior because they are:

- Easier to clean
- Easier to refill
- Easier to drink from
- Easier to use with drip, suck, squeeze, or gravity water filtration (and I've used them all)
 
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As Aeteocles pointed out, you're looking for something in the 25-40 liter range that's designed for weight bearing. Ideally, if you can get your kit into a smaller pack, do so; too many people go too big or, unrealistically large, then end-up filling it up with too much 'just in-case' items. If this is your day-hike pack, go with a minimal survival set-up, then include your water, food stuffs, necessary medication and the maps of the area you'll be in. Don't over do it, remember you're getting out to enjoy the outdoors, don't make it a burden.

For a solid pack in this range, with weight bearing suspension, you're looking at least a starting budget of $100 and it can rapidly climb upwards depending on quality of materials, general construction, features and if it's made in the US. Osprey, Gregory, Dueter, Mystery Ranch, REI brand, Kelty, TNF, MHW, Arc'Teryx, Granite Gear, 5.11, Tyr Tactical, London Bridge, Hill People Gear, etc...all of these outdoor & tactical brands produce backpacks in this size range. Its a very crowded category and competitive category, much will depend on what features you're looking for and budget. The more zippers are pack has, the more things can break, learn to segment your internal items into separate pouches and bags.

There's a number of clearance sites, check out REI.com, Zappos.com, Backcountry.com to name a few.

This is the first of a two part series, that may help provide perspective
https://soundcloud.com/fieldcr...e-167-bug-out-part-1

Another good channel to resource from
 
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Hello again!

Excellent stuff - I’m thinking the day pack idea is exactly what I’m after. Keep ‘em coming!

Thank you!!

James


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REI has a good selection and I normally suggest you go there and try some on but that not going to happen right now. Many of the packs at sporting good stores are more for carrying stuff around school or to and from work, not for miles on your back.

I stay away from the "tactical" ones with webbing everywhere. It just adds weight and I've never needed it. YMMV.

Here are some I look for and like in a pack.

-Good waist belt with pockets
-Mesh pockets on the side to stuff water bottles and other stuff in
-Hydration sleeve if you plan on using a bladder.
-Mesh front stuff area(great for shoving stuff you want to get to quickly or a wet jacket after a quick downpour)

Size it to your needs. Having a pack that's too small means leaving something out but to big and it doesn't always ride well on your back. Also to big and you're likely to stuff too much stuff in it.


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Something with a sturdy handle and stout pouch works... CaB-2
 
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