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May 01, 2024, 05:04 PM
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Cell Phone Password
I’d be worried at more than a single layer of trouble if i’m headed that way, my friend.

Phones tend to have historical backups in different places and suddenly you need to be concerned by the Cloud, tablets, computer hard drives, flash drives, previous phones and whatnots. Any of those could be more accessible and vulnerable than your personal phone.
Phone and ISP companies keep records, have no clue of what exactly but the fact is your digital fingerprints are all over the place.

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May 01, 2024, 05:40 PM
Fly-Sig
It seems to me that if someone is under serious suspicion, yeah the authorities are gonna get in. They're also likely to confiscate all your computers and tablets. They'll get all your emails, finances, etc.

If you're a criminal, go dark and have no electronics at all.

For a more casual situation that we normal people might experience, say coming in from a foreign country or getting Terry stopped (frisk and search for "officer safety" during traffic or other encounter), then disabling fingerprint and facial recognition should do the trick.

If traveling to some specific kinds of countries I would most certainly only carry very scrubbed electronics without access to anything personal. That photo of my daughter at age 2 in a diaper might be illegal, or a pickpocket might get my phone and then access to my banking.
May 01, 2024, 09:31 PM
Pipe Smoker
quote:
Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
It seems to me that if someone is under serious suspicion, yeah the authorities are gonna get in. They're also likely to confiscate all your computers and tablets. They'll get all your emails, finances, etc.

If you're a criminal, go dark and have no electronics at all.
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Last I heard, Apple is declaring that they CAN’T get into a locked iPhone. There’s no “back door” entry, much to the annoyance of Biden’s DOJ.



Serious about crackers.
May 01, 2024, 11:28 PM
onegeek
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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Last I heard, Apple is declaring that they CAN’T get into a locked iPhone. There’s no “back door” entry, much to the annoyance of Biden’s DOJ.


ONLY IF you have set encryption on both your iPhone and (if connected) your iCloud account. And your Apple computer if that is also linked to iCloud. And iPad. And any other device you have synched with or backed up. Etc.
May 02, 2024, 09:33 AM
gpbst3
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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
my phone can be set up to a numerical password - and will be by next week, but the question I'm asking is can I be compelled to give up that code to anyone if its not written down?



Is this question being intentionally left vague? Who is this "anyone" you are referring to? Is it your wife, employer, police officer, police officer with a warrant, customs agent, foreign police, foreign customs agent or just street robber with a gun to your head?


May 02, 2024, 09:56 AM
nhtagmember
well it appears that in fact in some jurisdictions you can be compelled to give up a digital password, as well as passwords to icloud accounts

several courts, notably Texas, have determined that there is no unreasonable search and seizure nor is there a 5th Amendment violation by forcing you to turn over the passwords

and yes, I'm being intentionally vague for now
May 02, 2024, 12:37 PM
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I don’t know you and we have never met, twice. Big Grin

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