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The gates opened.

 
Posts: 5181 | Location: 20 miles north of hell | Registered: November 07, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Lawyers, Guns
and Money
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A little over two years after Reagan's famous speech:




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Get my pies
outta the oven!

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I was assigned to Kitzingen, Germany in northern Bavaria with the US Army in December 1991 and it was very clear they were still two separate countries, even thought their reunification had happened officially and the borders erased.

The West was modern, clean, orderly.

The East was shabby, dirty and felt like you were in a bad neighborhood of an otherwise nice city.

It took them years and billions of Marks to erase that.


 
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Originally posted by PASig:
I was assigned to Kitzingen, Germany in northern Bavaria with the US Army in December 1991 and it was very clear they were still two separate countries, even thought they reunification had happened officially and the borders erased.

The West was modern, clean, orderly.

The East was shabby, dirty and felt like you were in a bad neighborhood of an otherwise nice city.

It took them years and billions of Marks to erase that.


I went to Berlin in '92 and I certainly did not need a map or compass to tell if I was on the east or west side of the city. The east side was just drab gray concrete buildings, no color and was depressing.




I have a few SIGs.
 
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No, not like
Bill Clinton
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And the Trabants flooded in



 
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I was there in West Germany right after the wall came down. On the Autobahns, a Trabant could go at most 45-50mph. While thr Trabants were doing 45-50, the BMWs and Mercedes were doing 120 MPH and higher. The Trabants might as well have been stopped in the road at that speed. It was scary coming up on them.

I remember seeing a couple Trabants parked. The West Germans were pointing and laughing at the Trabants.

I was working on a NATO contract at the time. I remember going to a very nice drinks and dinner event, with Generals all around me. This was in a hotel on the Rhine River. The generals were all very nervous about what was going to happen to their jobs!
 
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i was in FRG with 18th MP Bde from 88-92. when the wall came down, it was an amazing time. I travelled to Berlin and traded cigs and coffee from my rations card to the EG and Russian soldiers for anything and everything.
 
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Too old to run,
too mean to quit!
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Originally posted by PASig:
I was assigned to Kitzingen, Germany in northern Bavaria with the US Army in December 1991 and it was very clear they were still two separate countries, even thought their reunification had happened officially and the borders erased.

The West was modern, clean, orderly.

The East was shabby, dirty and felt like you were in a bad neighborhood of an otherwise nice city.

It took them years and billions of Marks to erase that.


True. I got to spend 2 weeks on vacation traveling in the eastern zone after the wall came down. Much of it looked like France right after the war. Paved roads were nothing but a collection of huge potholes. We were over there 3 times in total. Visiting family and friends.

Even took the duty train to Berlin before the wall came down. Interesting to say the least.


Elk

There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour)

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "
-Thomas Jefferson

"America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville

FBHO!!!



The Idaho Elk Hunter
 
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His diet consists of black
coffee, and sarcasm.
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I remember those revolutions. Especially Romania's, the only one that was violent. Its rulers, the Ceaușescus, got the firing squad.
 
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Corgis Rock
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This July I spent a day in Berlin. Did the remaining Wall and the sights. Oddly, our train arrived in East Berlin and we arrived at Brandenburg gate from the East.
Where the Wall was is now shown by a line of cobblestones.
Checkpoint Charlie is now a bad tourist trap.
As for the city, it looked the same wherever we were.



“ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull.
 
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