I want to buy some medical supplies in case of emergencies. I'm after tourniquets, Israeli bandages, CPR masks, and other basic supplies.
I'm in need of recommendations for where to buy this stuff. I don't know much about medical equipment, so I'm not sure which sites are legitimate or not. I want to make sure I don't receive any fake products.
I'd also be willing to accept any recommendations on specific equipment from more informed members of the forum.
Thank you.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Brett257,
May 03, 2017, 05:45 PM
SkyOtter
Don't forget antibiotics. Other than fish supplies, is there any way to get those?
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May 03, 2017, 05:47 PM
Palm
I've used these guys with success. Not in the medical field in any capacity, I was just looking for emergency items like you.
I am lucky I live in Texas and travel close to the Mexico border often. I go across the border and purchase a variety of antibiotics to keep on hand. I also have bought various forms of lidocaine as I have a suture kit and would prefer to be numb if I had to get or give stitches.
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May 03, 2017, 06:39 PM
Expert308
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Originally posted by RogueJSK: Rescue Essentials
Chinook Medical
I've had great service from both of these.
May 03, 2017, 06:53 PM
MNSIG
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Originally posted by Brett257: I don't know much about medical equipment, so I'm not sure which sites are legitimate or not.
If your medical knowledge is limited, don't buy fancy equipment.
May 03, 2017, 08:52 PM
rduckwor
A lot of the stuff is available on Amazon. Fish antibiotics are the only game in town without a script.
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May 03, 2017, 10:28 PM
Brett257
Thanks for the suggestions, you guys. I appreciate the help.
May 03, 2017, 10:38 PM
Brett257
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Originally posted by MNSIG:
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Originally posted by Brett257: I don't know much about medical equipment, so I'm not sure which sites are legitimate or not.
If your medical knowledge is limited, don't buy fancy equipment.
That's a good point. I've signed up for some training that includes emergency medical care. The tourniquet is required along with other basic first aid supplies. As my skills advance in this area, I hope to add the appropriate equipment to my medical kit.
May 03, 2017, 10:55 PM
Expat
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Originally posted by rduckwor: A lot of the stuff is available on Amazon. Fish antibiotics are the only game in town without a script.
RMD
Seem to find the best prices as well on Amazon.
May 03, 2017, 11:00 PM
Expat
As an aside I have one of these tourniquets, RevMed. I really like it in practice and theory.
They have some really interesting stuff; some of which is not available to general public.
May 03, 2017, 11:13 PM
Appliance Brad
Currently working EMT here.
Get some training
Don't buy first aid kits, buy components
Chinook Medical and North American Rescue are two of the best.
Don't buy crap off of Amazon
Get some training
You don't need a CPR mask, bystander CPR no longer uses rescue breathes.
Greg Elifritz of Active Response Training does an awesome Collapse Medicine class which includes which antibiotics and other supplies to buy and store.
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May 04, 2017, 07:22 AM
rduckwor
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You don't need a CPR mask, bystander CPR no longer uses rescue breathes.
This is not correct. We still teach rescue breaths with "hands-only" as a lesser alternative. Depends upon whose doctrine you follow.
RMD
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May 04, 2017, 08:04 AM
MNSIG
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Originally posted by rduckwor:
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You don't need a CPR mask, bystander CPR no longer uses rescue breathes.
This is not correct. We still teach rescue breaths with "hands-only" as a lesser alternative. Depends upon whose doctrine you follow.
RMD
The "hands-only" technique is also intended as a stop gap in the few minutes until professional help arrives. In the case of a widespread emergency, that time interval may expand significantly. That would make the breathing aspect much more important.
May 04, 2017, 08:52 AM
ulsterman
The Mrs. was a nurse for years. When they used surgical pac, she was allowed to get uncontaminated items (iodine packs, tweezers, scaples, gauze).
The hospital eventually put an end to the process due to liability concerns but we had a nice collection.
Like someone said, buy components.
May 04, 2017, 02:45 PM
ontmark
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Originally posted by Appliance Brad: Currently working EMT here.
Get some training
I may have to get some modern day training.
Last time I took the twelve week Advanced First Aid Course given by the Red Cross they taught the Precordial thump. I hear that is not taught anymore.
I loved the vehicle extraction procedures we practiced.
I wonder if the book I still have is outdated also??
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May 04, 2017, 10:02 PM
Appliance Brad
If you look at my post, you will note I said Bystander CPR
You don't need a CPR mask, bystander CPR no longer uses rescue breathes.
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Originally posted by MNSIG:
quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
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You don't need a CPR mask, bystander CPR no longer uses rescue breathes.
This is not correct. We still teach rescue breaths with "hands-only" as a lesser alternative. Depends upon whose doctrine you follow.
RMD
The "hands-only" technique is also intended as a stop gap in the few minutes until professional help arrives. In the case of a widespread emergency, that time interval may expand significantly. That would make the breathing aspect much more important.
If there is a widespread emergency, MCI triage protocols say you don't get CPR anyway. If you are in arrest, I'm afraid you are not going to make it.
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May 05, 2017, 05:56 AM
MNSIG
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Originally posted by Appliance Brad:If there is a widespread emergency, MCI triage protocols say you don't get CPR anyway. If you are in arrest, I'm afraid you are not going to make it.
Brad,
Your answer definitely shows your depth of knowledge and insight on the subject rather than many of our superficial first answers. Of course, you're right.
Other than an uncomplicated arrest due to a mild (no burns, organ damage, etc) electric shock or near drowning, CPR without very timely advanced medical care is virtually useless.
I'd extend that to many of the scenarios I read about guys on the Internet (not anyone in particular) preparing for. If you are truly off the grid and cut off from civilization, patching up that abdominal GSW with a tampon isn't going to be particularly effective. Oh, it may stop the blood from getting on the floor, but unless you have access to a trauma center, your victim is going to die.
Most of us don't need much beyond basic first aid kits. If EMS is available, they'll bring their own supplies. If not, you're screwed anyway.
May 05, 2017, 06:40 AM
rduckwor
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If there is a widespread emergency, MCI triage protocols say you don't get CPR anyway. If you are in arrest, I'm afraid you are not going to make it.
This is absolutely true.
The doctrinal issue is ARC versus AHA teachings.
And Ontmark, some of this changes every three-five years depending upon who is sponsoring the course and who is teaching the course. Precordial thump is gone as the experts believe it to be of no value.
RMD
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