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New required Boy Scouts/Scouts BSA merit badge

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November 05, 2021, 03:04 PM
smschulz
New required Boy Scouts/Scouts BSA merit badge
quote:
Originally posted by selogic:
We had a CEO at my company that stated that we should not just " tolerate " alternate lifestyles , but we should " embrace " them . WTFO ? Sorry dude . Tolerance is as good as it gets . You can't force me to embrace a damn thing .


Rebuttal:
How about tolerating or embracing my intolerance and unacceptance of immoral and destructive behavior?
November 05, 2021, 03:08 PM
DennisM
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Originally posted by ruger357:
I was a Boy Scout. I wrote them off when they decided gay leaders could camp out with young boys.


I am not worried about gay scout leaders. I'm worried about pedophiles. (Side note, probably the third gayest human alive at the time was a long-time staffer at my Council's camp. He was an Eagle, a Vigil Arrowman, and managed to live the Scout Law better than just about anyone I ever met. "Gay" never entered into his Scouting equation.)

Give me a whole legion of non-pedo gay dudes who actually believe in a) the reason the BSA was founded and b) living out the ideals, over a single one of the spineless, revisionist jackasses that currently run Scouting from the top down. "A Scout is Loyal, unless loyalty to traditions doesn't meet a narrative. A Scout is Brave, unless bravery means you'll lose a few whatever-they-call-Sustaining-Membership-Dollars-Now. A Scout is Trustworthy, unless it means trusting you to do the right thing above personal interest. A Scout is Reverent, as long as you mean reverence to a political ideal instead of an actual God."

My break with Scouting (as a Scout, Explorer, later an Assistant Scoutmaster and Commissioner) came when they decided that while principles were important-- in that case, their stance on female Scoutmasters-- they weren't nearly as important as the financial cost of defending that principle in court. Not "Well, we reconsidered, and we think woman can fill that role." It was "Well, we thought about it, and defending against suits in all these states will get REALLY expensive."

quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
Baden-Powell is spinning in his grave.

RMD


The trail sign on his grave marker translates to "I have gone home." Thankfully, the Hero of Mafeking is safely there and probably focused on other things and isn't watching this clown-show.


November 08, 2021, 12:12 AM
jtedescucci
Three of the best years I spent in my teenage years were with the Scouts. And I was never so disappointed as I was when I first heard that the BSA was NOT going to try to fight the homosexual bunch that got them in their sights some years ago. I remember how sick at heart I felt when that news first started circulating. God, how could scouting NOT fight that?! And yet they didn't.....


"...we have put together I think the most extensive & inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." - Joe Biden
November 08, 2021, 03:47 AM
muzzleloader
Seems to me that the Boy Scout oath already covers real values of diversity and inclusion. Why cook up some bullshit merit badge? Scouting was about deeds, not lip service to the latest woke fad . Agree, disband them. That’s from an Eagle Scout.


"The days are stacked against what we think we are." Jim Harrison
November 08, 2021, 08:48 AM
StarTraveler
quote:
Originally posted by muzzleloader:
Seems to me that the Boy Scout oath already covers real values of diversity and inclusion. Why cook up some bullshit merit badge? Scouting was about deeds, not lip service to the latest woke fad . Agree, disband them. That’s from an Eagle Scout.


Another Eagle here, Class of '78, and long-time former Scout leader. I agree with all of this except the disband them part. Scouting can still be good for the kids of today and tomorrow, but it desperately needs new leadership that has the courage to return to the values Baden-Powell and the early Boy Scout leaders in the United States if it is to do that. If not, there won't be the need to disband; it will die a slow, natural death on its own.


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"Aut viam inveniam aut faciam (I will either find a way or make one)." -- Hannibal Barca
November 08, 2021, 09:36 AM
selogic
The problem is , you can never go back . " Returning to the values .." is not going to happen . The cancer is spreading and the BSA is on borrowed time .